Based on his statements made to date, it does not appear that Kurt Daudt EITHER contacted the two states involved, North Dakota and Montana, to attempt to comply with their gun laws, OR that he was responsible in safely and securely transporting that firearm, in terms of controlling who had access to it, and transporting it in an unloaded condition, as covered in the news reports.
The gun huggers wonder why we, the general population who lives, walks, shops, dines, and drinks coffee among them don’t trust them? That is because they do things like Daudt and Weinzetl that are of questionable legality, and definitely irresponsible — and they don’t feel bad about it afterwards. Pointing a gun at children is a bad thing, a bad thing which Daudt made possible by his decisions. Kurt Daudt doesn’t seem to care or feel badly that a gun was pointed at children. HOW IS THAT RESPONSIBLE?"Minnesota permit holders who plan to visit another state, and who also wish to carry a concealed firearm while visiting that state, are urged to contact that state before traveling. This will allow Minnesota permit holders to determine all restrictions or prohibitions regarding the carrying of concealed firearms in those states, as well as their laws regarding firearms and weapons in general."
Both North Dakota and Montana are listed as states with laws substantially different from Minnesota, under the state web site at the BCA for gun permit reciprocity, which I understand to mean that his permit did not qualify for reciprocity and was therefore of questionable legality. Neither Montana nor North Dakota are listed as states to which Minnesota extends reciprocity for carry permits.
Here is what the BCA web site has to say:
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An excellent rule of thumb is to treat the transport of a firearm like an open bottle of alcohol. You make it as safe as possible – unloaded. You keep it in a location that is not easily or readily accessible to the front seat. You keep it away from prohibited people – an underage person in the case of alcohol for example (or the driver) and away from criminals who are not themselves eligible or desirable people to have access to guns. Daudt’s friend does not appear to be a felon, but he does appear to have engaged in aggressive and illegal actions before, and to have repeatedly engaged in really bad judgement, and therefore was not a suitable person to have access to Daudt’s weapon.
I would like to see any conviction of Daudt’s companion, Weinzetl, to prohibit him from gun ownership in Minnesota as a clear indication that he is a dangerously irresponsible individual with firearms. This incident is a clear example of how some people escalate rather than defuse conflict when they have access to a firearm.
As reported in the STrib:
According to charges, authorities received a call from the alleged victim, Brock Roy, who said that he sold his 1966 white Bronco to a man from Minnesota, and that when the man came to pick up the vehicle, he confronted Brock “about the way the vehicle drove.” Brock told him the sale was final and the two began arguing.
“The altercation rose to a point where a friend of the male retrieved a black handgun and pointed the gun at the entire family, including the children,” the complaint said. “Fearful for the safety of his family, Brock accelerated away from the situation in his vehicle, leaving the two males behind.”
Police, who were on the lookout for Daudt and Weinzetl, stopped them in separate vehicles. The men were handcuffed and arrested, according to the report. Daudt said in his statement that he was never accused of wrongdoing.
According to Minnesota court records, Weinzetl, a construction worker, has landed in trouble before.
His record shows multiple traffic offenses and he was found guilty in 2010 of assault on a police officer and obstructing the legal process, both gross misdemeanors, following a March 2010 incident in which he punched a man outside his home. When an Isanti County Sheriff’s deputy arrived at the house to speak with Weinzetl and his brother, Weinzetl shoved and punched the deputy, breaking his glasses and tearing his uniform. The deputy reported that he tried unsuccessfully to use a Taser on Weinzetl.
Cross-posted from my co-blogger, Eric Ferguson at MNPP:
Why did Kurt Daudt take a loaded gun to go car shopping?
State House minority leader Kurt Daudt, R-Crown, took his sweet time talking to the press about his weird adventure with the gun and the Bronco (the SUV sort, not a horse or football player) and even then, seemed to be reluctant to say much. I can’t tell if one screamingly obvious question was asked, but it sure wasn’t answered: why did Daudt bring a loaded gun to go car shopping?
I don’t care that Daudt has a hobby restoring old vehicles. That’s common, and driving to other states to acquire desired vehicles, a 1966 Ford Bronco in this case, is something such hobbyists do. That he brought someone with him makes sense since somebody needs to drive his car back. I’m not even that concerned about the particulars of the argument with the seller because accounts of the participants will conflict and memories are pretty fungible sometimes. In other words, I’m offering no comment on who said what or who was right. If you want to look at court documents, they’re here, but whether the seller misrepresented the vehicle as Daudt says or there was something else they argued over, isn’t really the question.
Here’s the question: why did Daudt bring a gun just to go look at a vehicle? Actually, that begs a couple more questions. Why was he carrying the gun loaded? Why was he bringing a loaded gun in easy reach of a traveling companion who has had multiple problems with the law?
I know what answer some gun nuts will give: he had a right to carry a loaded gun! The smarter ones will anticipate my answer: so what? Maybe having the gun and having it loaded was perfectly legal. I don’t know Montana’s gun laws, but given how the conservative SCOTUS majority has seen fit to use some questionable history of the Second Amendment to make gun regulation very difficult, I’ll guess the gun was legal. Having it loaded and readily accessible was maybe legal too, and let’s say for argument’s sake it was legal. So what?
The closest Daudt has come to an answer is this paraphrase in the Star Tribune article, “Daudt said he had it in a small compartment under a seat in his car and had put it there just because he was on a 14-hour road trip to Montana.” What, if it was merely a 13-hour trip he wouldn’t have needed a gun, but that 14th hour is just so dangerous? Is Montana that scary? Are the Dakotas dangerous to passing restorers of old SUVs?
Those who maintain that responsible gun owners should be free to carry however they want should be willing to grant one thing: Daudt is not a responsible gun owner. Despite his claim he didn’t think his companion, Daniel Weinzetl, knew about the gun, clearly he somehow clearly passed on that information. Presumably Daudt knew Weinzetl has run afoul the law before. So he brought a gun to look at a vehicle, kept it loaded, kept it in reach of someone possibly dangerous, and let a disagreement blow up into a heated argument. Would he have allowed it to get that far without knowing he had the gun close by to trump any opposing argument? Something I would think even an NRA life member would acknowledge is that Daudt created a dangerous situation. He is the sort of person who should not have a gun.
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