However, Angie's list is experiencing a back lash. People haven't forgotten; and people haven't changed their mind about Rush Limp-bow, either. His non-apology apology was inadequate and as insulting as his original grossly offensive comments.
I'm a consumer who votes with my feet and with my $$$. I haven't set foot inside Target since they made offensive right wing political donations. Until they change their policy, despite decades of having been a dedicated Target shopper, I won't go back. And every time a friend, neighbor or acquaintance mentions shopping at Target, I encourage them not to do so --- and most haven't returned.
Here is the petition from Credo to protest Limbaugh advertising. And here is the phone number to call to protest to them directly:
If this isn't effective, I plan to look up and call every Angie's listed business in a 50 mile radius of my zip code, to complain to THEM. Because I believe that businesses, both large and small, have the ability and the obligation to be good citizens in our community. That happens when those businesses realize that people care and are paying attention.
Rush Limbaugh is an adult, not a naughty child who should be given a time out. He should be held to a much greater accountability, and to date he has shown no indication of addressing the issues with his conduct. He remains as offensive as ever. That should not be rewarded.
Not to put too fine a point on it, Rush Limbaugh acts as a right wing political enforcer, and he has for years behaved on the radio and in his comments in other venues as the worst kind of pig. Women do not have to put up with this conduct, or reward it with our business -- and the reality is, women are capable of flexing a significant financial muscle, just as we should flex our political muscle in the face of the right wing culture war on women. This is the perfect time to do so.
Tell Angie's List: Drop your support of Rush Limbaugh!According to Media Matters, just this week, Angie's List, which stopped advertising on the Rush Limbaugh Show in March, became the first major company to resume advertising after Limbaugh called Sandra Fluke a "slut" and a "prostitute."
Since we launched our campaign targeting advertisers on the Rush Limbaugh Show, over 140 advertisers dropped their support of the Show, and Premiere Radio suspended all national advertising on the show for two weeks.
But, now that Angie's List has resumed advertising, other advertisers could join ranks and start supporting the Rush Limbaugh Show again.
That's why it's incredibly important for us to respond quickly and forcefully so Angie's List, and other corporations who might be thinking of resuming advertising on the show, know that we won't stand by as corporations resume their support of Rush Limbaugh and his sexist comments.
Tell Angie's List: Immediately and permanently end your support of Rush Limbaugh.
Unfortunately, what Rush Limbaugh says matters. He has a bigger audience than any other commercial radio host in the country, and what he talks about on air has the power to drive the Republican agenda -- an agenda that is already obsessed with radical backslides of women's ability to protect their own health.
Sandra Fluke's testimony before Congress included important points about why access to affordable birth control is so crucial, including the story of a friend who had lost an ovary because she couldn't afford the birth control needed to manage her ovarian cysts.
Rush's unforgivable translation of that was "slut" and "prostitute." Sandra Fluke rightly has called Rush Limbaugh's comments "an attack on all women." We agree.
Every American enjoys the right to free speech, but that doesn't mean that advertisers who are accountable to their customers should pay people like Rush Limbaugh who make such appallingly hateful and sexist comments.
Angie's List needs to hear from us loud and clear -- if you advertise on Rush Limbaugh, you are supporting his reprehensible attacks on women. And other advertisers thinking about resuming their support of this program need to know that we won't let them quietly begin supporting such hateful and sexist rhetoric.
Tell Angie's List: Immediately and permanently end your support of Rush Limbaugh.
In the fight against the Susan G. Komen Foundation we proved that when women and the men who support them fight back against those who would restrict women's access to healthcare, we can win. And MSNBC's firing of commentator Pat Buchanan after a campaign protesting his white supremacist rhetoric shows that there will be consequences when certain lines are crossed.
Rush Limbaugh has a long history of hateful rhetoric. But with his comments about Sandra Fluke, Rush Limbaugh has crossed the line at a moment when women, and the men who believe in equal rights for women, are more organized than ever and are ready to fight back.
Tell Angie's List: Immediately and permanently end your support of Rush Limbaugh.
We will not let the rightwing take away women's access to birth control. We will not let Republicans brand women who assert their right to health care as "sluts" and "prostitutes."
Thank you for joining CREDO in taking action to stop the escalating attacks on women and hold Rush Limbaugh and the Republican message machine accountable.
Since we launched our campaign targeting advertisers on the Rush Limbaugh Show, over 140 advertisers dropped their support of the Show, and Premiere Radio suspended all national advertising on the show for two weeks.
But, now that Angie's List has resumed advertising, other advertisers could join ranks and start supporting the Rush Limbaugh Show again.
That's why it's incredibly important for us to respond quickly and forcefully so Angie's List, and other corporations who might be thinking of resuming advertising on the show, know that we won't stand by as corporations resume their support of Rush Limbaugh and his sexist comments.
Tell Angie's List: Immediately and permanently end your support of Rush Limbaugh.
Unfortunately, what Rush Limbaugh says matters. He has a bigger audience than any other commercial radio host in the country, and what he talks about on air has the power to drive the Republican agenda -- an agenda that is already obsessed with radical backslides of women's ability to protect their own health.
Sandra Fluke's testimony before Congress included important points about why access to affordable birth control is so crucial, including the story of a friend who had lost an ovary because she couldn't afford the birth control needed to manage her ovarian cysts.
Rush's unforgivable translation of that was "slut" and "prostitute." Sandra Fluke rightly has called Rush Limbaugh's comments "an attack on all women." We agree.
Every American enjoys the right to free speech, but that doesn't mean that advertisers who are accountable to their customers should pay people like Rush Limbaugh who make such appallingly hateful and sexist comments.
Angie's List needs to hear from us loud and clear -- if you advertise on Rush Limbaugh, you are supporting his reprehensible attacks on women. And other advertisers thinking about resuming their support of this program need to know that we won't let them quietly begin supporting such hateful and sexist rhetoric.
Tell Angie's List: Immediately and permanently end your support of Rush Limbaugh.
In the fight against the Susan G. Komen Foundation we proved that when women and the men who support them fight back against those who would restrict women's access to healthcare, we can win. And MSNBC's firing of commentator Pat Buchanan after a campaign protesting his white supremacist rhetoric shows that there will be consequences when certain lines are crossed.
Rush Limbaugh has a long history of hateful rhetoric. But with his comments about Sandra Fluke, Rush Limbaugh has crossed the line at a moment when women, and the men who believe in equal rights for women, are more organized than ever and are ready to fight back.
Tell Angie's List: Immediately and permanently end your support of Rush Limbaugh.
We will not let the rightwing take away women's access to birth control. We will not let Republicans brand women who assert their right to health care as "sluts" and "prostitutes."
Thank you for joining CREDO in taking action to stop the escalating attacks on women and hold Rush Limbaugh and the Republican message machine accountable.
If the form below doesn't work for you, please go to the website by clicking the link above 'from Credo', and fill out the form there:
Sign the petition
The petition reads:
"Pull your advertising from Rush Limbaugh's radio program immediately and permanently. He called a Georgetown Law School student testifying before Congress about women's access to birth control a 'slut' and a 'prostitute.' His reprehensible remarks are an attack on all women, including women who are your customers."
Complete the following to sign the petition. You'll receive periodic updates on offers and activism opportunities.
Still harping on Rush? His audience is bigger than ever. I have yet to see one of Rush's detractors do as much for Americans as he has done. You might not agree with his politics or his arrogance, but all the people you reach out to, all of them combined will never add up to the Millons he has raised to combat Leukemia and Lymphoma.
ReplyDeleteMitchell King, welcome to commenting on Penigma, and thank you.
ReplyDeleteRush does NOT have a particularly large audience; perhaps you are not clear on how audiences are measured. One of my friends is a regional marketing exec for clear channel. Courtesy of my friend, we've used their corporate board room for planning meetings to put on educational / public service events. I don't know where your information comes from, but it doesn't track with what I understand to be true - certainly NOT about audiences contrary to what Rush projects; especially he is NOT doing well with his advertising situation, which does not appear to be substantively improving. When I called Angie's list recently, the number of outraged calls of people who were quitting Angie's List over this was substantial. I had to wait on hold just to get through for a significant wait.
While he may in fact have raised money to combat Leukemia or Lymphoma.........so what? Are you arguing that somehow gives him a pass on being racist or misogyinst or chronically factually inaccurate?
Is raising money for charities in your mind - and only your mind - like some modern version of medieval Roman Catholic indulgences, where you could simply buy your way out of anything bad or wrong or hurtful you did? Because if that is what you think - you're terribly, horribly wrong, and would benefit from a good series of classes on the topic of ethics.
In the same vein the Koch Brothers donating to many worthy causes (for example I see one of them sponsoring programming I enjoy on PBS regularly) does NOT excuse their funding voter suppression and voter fraud in Wisconsin, or corrupting state legislatures by buying off conservative politicians to pass corrupt legislation benefiting special intersts (especially theirs).
I don't see Limbaugh as a one-dimensional cardboard cut out. I'm sure he has some virtues, and I suspect that outside of his job as a political enforcer, that there are different sides to his character besides his radio persona.
That doesn't excuse what he does, or what he sayss, as that radio persona. His point of view is hateful, and it is ignorant, and he is very badly wrong. He should leave the airwaves.
Without more advertisers, as with Glenn Beck leaving Fox, for many of the same reasons, I don't see Rush as retaining the influence he has had in the past. He is in the process of becoming marginalized, as a consequence of his own actions and decisions - and rightly so.
Mitch,
ReplyDeleteLimblaugh's charitable actions, no matter how philantropic, don't wash away bad acts.
Moreover, how much does Libmaugh give to charity? You claim he's "rasied" a lot, how, by talking about it on his radio show? That's HARDLY sacrificing much. I don't want to look a gift horse in the mouth, so I'm glad for his charity, but honestly, if all it REALLY amounts to is a few hours of his time which, due to his reach, raised a lot of money, I don't value the money as much as I value the sacrifice. Some guy worth $1B giving $100,000 to a charity isn't really giving very much of himself as compared to the guy who gives $2000 when he only makes $25000. Equally, someone giving 10 hours of their time frankly isn't giving as much of themselves as the guy who donates 5 hours per week. Sure those 10 hours may well have made a lot of money, but the personal cost to the person involved is nearly meaningless.
In the end, attempting to hide your lousey conduct in the trappings of philanthropy, as if that somehow excuses lousey conduct, is akin to the scoundrel wrapping himself in the flag. It looks good, but in the end it's yet MORE low class conduct. I'm not saying that's what Limbaug did, but I'd have to hear a LOT more, given what a monstrous turd Limbaugh is personally, before I'm going to give him much credit. It's certainly not without possibility that he's engaging in charity just to try to put a good smell over the smell of a pig.
Who was it that got over it when Bill Maher offended enough people that he was thrown off the air?
ReplyDeleteRush is on the air far more hours, than Bill Maher. Rush says far worse things on a regular basis than Bill Maher, about women and minorities. Bill Maher is not any party's political enforcer or surrogate making offensive statements with the intent of altering political outcomes either - as was the case with the Fluke controversy.
I would love to see Rush thrown off the air EXACTLY the way that Maher was back when he was comparably offensive.
If your flawed grasp of ethics is that because Maher does it, it is somehow OK for Limbaugh to do it, that two wrongs make it acceptable, you are off the mark badly.
Further I would point out that Maher is on one hour a week on cable, not broadcast. If you want to see Limbaugh reduced to an hour a week on some form of cable, or something like the pathetic little nothing that Beck is on --- who is and was far worse than Maher, and was dumped even from cable by Fox, then after a suitable period comparable to the time Maher did not have a show anywhere, I could see Rush come back...on HBO or something like it. For ONE hour a week, and where he is not the only person more or less featured.
If and when I come across somethign Maher says that is offensive, I do complain about it, or anyone else on the liberal side of the aisle.
Coulr it be Mark W that you simply have a really badly flawed morality, and your ethical compasss doesn't point in any direction, it just spins?
Welcome to Penigma. Dissent is welcome, but better reasoning and a better quality of information is a requisite here.
But to answer your question - NO, I'm not going to get over this. Limbaugh went way over a line, then dropped his pants and peed and pooped on it. There isn't a going back for Limbaugh. And while we're on the topic of other things Limbaugh didn't get right, the no apology apology doesn't work either.
An additional observation - perhaps I missed it -- Maher came out in defense of Limbaugh after he made his sorta kinda not really miserable excuse for an apology.
ReplyDeleteWhen was it exactly that Maher said something vile, that your guy Limbaugh came out in defense of Maher?
Or is that more of the double standard thinking on your part, along with a side order of cherry picking?
Mark W,
ReplyDeleteFirst, I ABSOLUTELY reject, condemn and "refutiate" (to borrow a Bush malapropism), Maher's comments about Sarah Palin. I don't excuse his conduct, it was ugly and improper, it was disgusting. Should he have "sponsors" pull out, yes IF he had any. He doesn't.
Do YOU condemn Limbaugh for the ugly and vulgar things he says? Do YOU live by what you say, or is it, "Do as I say, but while I expect you to live to standards, I won't do so"?
There is one point to further consider, Limbaugh presents himself as presenting "news" much of the time, and at least as telling his listeners "how things really are." Maher is a commedian, an occassionally offensive one, much like Andrew Dice Clay. Sometimes he's "over the top", but his viewers are aware he's being hyperbolic. They understand he's saying things to offend on purpose for the purpose of a laugh. Do Limbaugh's listeners consider what Rush says as anything other than "speaking truth to power?" I think not, I think they truly agree with sentiments like the fact that this person's a "slut" or that person wants to be paid to have sex. In short, and in truth, they aren't the same.
YET, I/WE reject and condemn Maher's comments. WE have called for Maher to apologize, I have felt and said at times HBO ought to suspend him/repudiate him. Do YOU call for the same thing?
sorry...
ReplyDeleteDo you call for the same thing from Limbaugh and his employer?
Refutiate was, I believe, one of the Sarah Palin malapropisms. The woman is never really very articulate; she's a freaking popsie.
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