Person gets out of a car, or leaves their house, with a loaded gun. There was a stated intent to go after someone who looked "suspicious".
Is it self-defence or murder if the person who "looked suspicious" is killed?
To make it fun, let's use this statute!
Feel free to use this guide to help you come up with something vaguely intelligent should you wish to answer this: open.lib.umn.edu/criminallaw/chapter/4-2-criminal-intent/
BTW, this uses two situations where get away with murder laws were used. Extra credit for guessing which two situations I am thinking of and their outcomes!
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Friday, December 29, 2017
Big Z or Big D? Guess who said it?
As Science Mike said: "Let's not forget that Zaphod was President of the Galaxy even though most thought him a fool."
Anyway, can you guess which person said the quote: Zaphod Beeblebrox or Donald Trump?
Take this quiz for an eye opener! https://www.buildquizzes.com/QFVIMY
If having Trump as President of theUniverse United States isn't enough to get people to see the Electoral College is truly outdated, then I don't see much hope.
My whole planet destroyed because you thought someone wanted your autograph!
Anyway, can you guess which person said the quote: Zaphod Beeblebrox or Donald Trump?
Take this quiz for an eye opener! https://www.buildquizzes.com/QFVIMY
If having Trump as President of the
My whole planet destroyed because you thought someone wanted your autograph!
Sunday, December 24, 2017
Trump isn't Hitler: He's Zaphod Beeblebrox!
“His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it.” — Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy
I didn't really make the connection until someone mentioned this in relation to Oumuamua:
Trillian: You idiot! You signed the order to destroy Earth!Thinking about it, Douglas Adams describes him as “Zaphod Beeblebrox, adventurer, ex-hippy, good timer, (crook? quite possibly), manic self-publicist, terribly bad at personal relationships, often thought to be completely out to lunch.” The last bit sounds pretty much like most of the criticism I heard about Trump during the campaign: he was too crazy to win.
Zaphod: I did?
Arthur: He did?
Trillian: Love and kisses Zaphod? You didn't even read it, did you?
Zaphod: Well, I'm president, I don't have a lot of time for reading.
Trillian: My whole planet destroyed because you thought someone wanted your autograph!
Now that he has won: everybody is wondering why he won. Of course, there isn't too much scrutiny to things like the electoral college, Diebold voting machines, the Democratic party's not being really democratic, etcetera.
No, just sit back and watch the side show while hoping like fuck he doesn't sign the order for Earth's destruction because he thinks someone wants his autograph.
See also:
America Is Being Run by Zaphod Beeblebrox
Donald Trump is Zaphod Beeblebrox
Donald Trump is Zaphod Beeblebrox (different one from above)
Wednesday, December 20, 2017
What's missing from the Russia Collusion Investigation
Why is no one in the media and this "investigation" talking to the people who voted for the third parties?
Seriously. It seems that we are being ignored for the duopoly supporters who somehow see the election as being fixed. Not in the way it was fixed where Hillary Clinton was pretty much the nominee before the voting began with the primary being shown up for the sham process it is, but that is a whole different post.
The e-mails we were told all along weren't an issue have somehow become an issue. That seems to be one of the main points in all this.
Then there is the social media aspect to all this, but most of the social media chatter I was party to pretty much featured people disgusted by Hillary Clinton without having to have anyone else add to the mess. The clip below wasn't set up by Russians, but was Hillary uncensored:
Was Russia behind that?
Hillary Clinton "lost" to Donald Trump in the Electoral College, not in the popular vote, which is a fact that no one seems to be discussing. On the other hand, that should be front and centre in all this since the Electoral College is supposed to prevent foreign interference in the selection of the chief executive.
The bottom line is that Hillary's campaign which was run on hubris lost to a campaign which has been compared to a clown car. The problem is that the media isn't looking at the home grown system which led to this disaster but is fixated on "Russian Interference" which would be minimal if it existed at all.
The truth is out there, but don't expect to see it being discussed in the Main Stream Media.
See also
Was Donald Trump’s campaign too chaotic to pull off a conspiracy?
Autopsy: The Democratic Party in Crisis
Seriously. It seems that we are being ignored for the duopoly supporters who somehow see the election as being fixed. Not in the way it was fixed where Hillary Clinton was pretty much the nominee before the voting began with the primary being shown up for the sham process it is, but that is a whole different post.
The e-mails we were told all along weren't an issue have somehow become an issue. That seems to be one of the main points in all this.
Then there is the social media aspect to all this, but most of the social media chatter I was party to pretty much featured people disgusted by Hillary Clinton without having to have anyone else add to the mess. The clip below wasn't set up by Russians, but was Hillary uncensored:
Was Russia behind that?
Hillary Clinton "lost" to Donald Trump in the Electoral College, not in the popular vote, which is a fact that no one seems to be discussing. On the other hand, that should be front and centre in all this since the Electoral College is supposed to prevent foreign interference in the selection of the chief executive.
The bottom line is that Hillary's campaign which was run on hubris lost to a campaign which has been compared to a clown car. The problem is that the media isn't looking at the home grown system which led to this disaster but is fixated on "Russian Interference" which would be minimal if it existed at all.
The truth is out there, but don't expect to see it being discussed in the Main Stream Media.
See also
Was Donald Trump’s campaign too chaotic to pull off a conspiracy?
Autopsy: The Democratic Party in Crisis
Tuesday, December 19, 2017
Let's play silly buggers.
The Russian influence thing is getting a lot out of hand. I say this because someone tried to say Hillary Clinton has never been under investigation, but Bernie Sanders and Jill Stein are currently.
You kind of wonder what rock this person has been hiding under since Clinton has been under quite a lot of investigation. The only reason that the insider trading thing didn't result in charges during Whitewater was that the statute of limitations had long passed. But that is one of many issues that I hope went away: although someone mentioned She might run again in 2020.
PLEASE DON'T!!!
Anyway, the mood of the day is to not try to address the flaws in the US system of elections: in particular the electoral college.
This needs to be hammered into some people's heads before someone truly fucked up wins:
The Fact is Hillary Clinton won the popular vote with 65,853,516 (48.5% votes) to Trump's 62,984,825 (46.4% votes), but lost in the electoral college by receiving 232 (43.1%) of the electoral votes to Trump's 306 (56.8%) votes.
Anyway, the above photo is of Emir Kusterica, a Serbian filmmaker, actor and musician, with Vladimir Putin. You also see the back of Jill Stein's head. The picture has been cropped so that Mike Flynn is not seen at the same table. Kusterica is sitting next to Putin: as opposed to Stein who is a few seats away.
Kusterica starred in the Widow of St. Pierre, along with Juliette Binoche and Daniel Auteuil, FRENCH PEOPLE!!!!
I won't hold Time of the Gypsies against Kusterica.
Let's go full McCarthyism and blame me for not being very patriotic (nationalism isn't my strong suit) and liking French movies. The Widow of St. Pierre is up there on my list of fav films and can be taken as anti-capital punishment (the widow in question is slang for the guillotine).
We can get into the Serb-Russian connection as well. The people at the table could just as well be discussing punk rock. For all we know, Putin could be saying how brilliant he thought Time of the Gypsies was.
On the other hand, isn't the electoral college supposed to prevent foreign interference in this process (not to mention preventing someone who is dangerous from being president)?
Seriously, Kusterica should be called in for questioning if mere association is enough to charge someone with guilt.
Somehow that seems to me to be a violation of the First Amendment and the right of peaceable assembly.
Anyway, blame is the game of the day in US politics. So don't expect too much for serious matters to be addressed.
See also:
You kind of wonder what rock this person has been hiding under since Clinton has been under quite a lot of investigation. The only reason that the insider trading thing didn't result in charges during Whitewater was that the statute of limitations had long passed. But that is one of many issues that I hope went away: although someone mentioned She might run again in 2020.
PLEASE DON'T!!!
Anyway, the mood of the day is to not try to address the flaws in the US system of elections: in particular the electoral college.
This needs to be hammered into some people's heads before someone truly fucked up wins:
The Fact is Hillary Clinton won the popular vote with 65,853,516 (48.5% votes) to Trump's 62,984,825 (46.4% votes), but lost in the electoral college by receiving 232 (43.1%) of the electoral votes to Trump's 306 (56.8%) votes.
Anyway, the above photo is of Emir Kusterica, a Serbian filmmaker, actor and musician, with Vladimir Putin. You also see the back of Jill Stein's head. The picture has been cropped so that Mike Flynn is not seen at the same table. Kusterica is sitting next to Putin: as opposed to Stein who is a few seats away.
Kusterica starred in the Widow of St. Pierre, along with Juliette Binoche and Daniel Auteuil, FRENCH PEOPLE!!!!
I won't hold Time of the Gypsies against Kusterica.
Let's go full McCarthyism and blame me for not being very patriotic (nationalism isn't my strong suit) and liking French movies. The Widow of St. Pierre is up there on my list of fav films and can be taken as anti-capital punishment (the widow in question is slang for the guillotine).
We can get into the Serb-Russian connection as well. The people at the table could just as well be discussing punk rock. For all we know, Putin could be saying how brilliant he thought Time of the Gypsies was.
Who is who at the table. |
On the other hand, isn't the electoral college supposed to prevent foreign interference in this process (not to mention preventing someone who is dangerous from being president)?
Seriously, Kusterica should be called in for questioning if mere association is enough to charge someone with guilt.
Somehow that seems to me to be a violation of the First Amendment and the right of peaceable assembly.
Anyway, blame is the game of the day in US politics. So don't expect too much for serious matters to be addressed.
See also:
Saturday, December 16, 2017
How America Got Divorced from Reality: Christian Utopias, Anti-Elitism, ...
Just in case you were wondering how we got in this mess.
Friday, December 15, 2017
I'm shocked! Shocked!
People are posting the video of Trump's judicial nominees being questioned and sounding like idiots.
No surprise to me.
That's why my blog was named after Laci. Patrick Artur made the comment that Laci had been in more court rooms than Harriet Miers (she had! And I have the proof!). You would be surprised how many judicial candidates have never seen the inside of a court room.
The best story is when I was on conference with the judge and Laci was in the bag under the table in the courtroom!
Another one where the judge saw me running Laci in the park across the street. He knew I had a dog with me, but he wasn't going to ask where she was.
Anyway. this is more of an indictment of US law schools and the legal practise. One of the deans of my US law school actually would say that they didn't have to teach the law: that was the job of the bar review courses! Most of the Judicial candidates I saw were more party loyalists or large donors: most of whom never went into a courtroom in their life.
I know that I don't stand a chance of ever being a judicial candidate, but I have tried jury trials, bench trials, argued motions, etc. I have done these not only in US State and Federal courts, but I have worked in other legal systems.
The problem is that the US legal profession hires the people who graduate top in their class, but that isn't going to provide for the best candidates. Toss in most people who do get hired find they are worked their asses off in the hope of being made a partner (no longer being an associate). But US law firms chew people up and spit them out.
I like the system other countries have where someone serves their apprenticeship and then is set out into the workplace. But that is not how the US legal practise works. People pass the bar and then go forth to practise law.
Don't take my word for it: there is somebody out there called the Rodent who will pretty much confirm what I am saying. http://www.emplawyernet.com/info/index.cfm
Laci and Philadelphia ADA outside a Court Room in City Hall |
No surprise to me.
That's why my blog was named after Laci. Patrick Artur made the comment that Laci had been in more court rooms than Harriet Miers (she had! And I have the proof!). You would be surprised how many judicial candidates have never seen the inside of a court room.
The best story is when I was on conference with the judge and Laci was in the bag under the table in the courtroom!
Another one where the judge saw me running Laci in the park across the street. He knew I had a dog with me, but he wasn't going to ask where she was.
Anyway. this is more of an indictment of US law schools and the legal practise. One of the deans of my US law school actually would say that they didn't have to teach the law: that was the job of the bar review courses! Most of the Judicial candidates I saw were more party loyalists or large donors: most of whom never went into a courtroom in their life.
I know that I don't stand a chance of ever being a judicial candidate, but I have tried jury trials, bench trials, argued motions, etc. I have done these not only in US State and Federal courts, but I have worked in other legal systems.
The problem is that the US legal profession hires the people who graduate top in their class, but that isn't going to provide for the best candidates. Toss in most people who do get hired find they are worked their asses off in the hope of being made a partner (no longer being an associate). But US law firms chew people up and spit them out.
I like the system other countries have where someone serves their apprenticeship and then is set out into the workplace. But that is not how the US legal practise works. People pass the bar and then go forth to practise law.
Don't take my word for it: there is somebody out there called the Rodent who will pretty much confirm what I am saying. http://www.emplawyernet.com/info/index.cfm
Monday, December 11, 2017
John Anderson Tribute
John Anderson, the independent candidate for President In 1980, died last week at the age of 95. I wanted to note his passing since I supported him early on, but ended up voting my fear and going with Jimmy Carter.
Carter lost and we had Reagan.
I found it interesting that Reuters quoted his daughter, Diane Anderson as saying her father "really believed the two-party system was broken in 1980. Everything he wanted to prevent unfortunately came to pass."
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/05/568489924/john-anderson-independent-for-president-in-1980-dies-at-95
Marsha Sutton, in a San Diego Tribune Commentary pointed out the similarities to Bernie Sanders:
Unfortunately, Anderson was coming from the Republican Party which went on to become fringier and fringier. Some people like to think that Trump signifies the death of that party while neglecting that there is a website called democraticautopsy.org.
While I like Bernie, his politics, and his attempt to revive the Democratic Party (or expose it for the fraud it is): I don't see myself voting for him or a democratic party line.
I just hope other people wake up to the fact that the US political system has been ill for an incredibly long time.
Carter lost and we had Reagan.
I found it interesting that Reuters quoted his daughter, Diane Anderson as saying her father "really believed the two-party system was broken in 1980. Everything he wanted to prevent unfortunately came to pass."
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/12/05/568489924/john-anderson-independent-for-president-in-1980-dies-at-95
Marsha Sutton, in a San Diego Tribune Commentary pointed out the similarities to Bernie Sanders:
We understood we were working for a noble cause that exceeded our individual interests. We believed in the magical possibility of breaking from the traditional two-party system in favor of a moderate who spoke the truth with integrity and conviction.A lot of people who denigrated the Sanders campaign neglected that there is a lot of dissatisfaction with the two party system. So, when a candidate who is seen as having integrity comes around he tends to get a lot of attention.
My favorite button features a caricature of Anderson showing only his white hair and the outline of his glasses. The similarity to buttons sported by Bernie Sanders supporters in 2016 is obvious.
Perhaps there is more than a caricature that makes the two similar. It’s not their politics certainly, but the comparison lies in each man’s honest desire to change the established political culture.
Unfortunately, Anderson was coming from the Republican Party which went on to become fringier and fringier. Some people like to think that Trump signifies the death of that party while neglecting that there is a website called democraticautopsy.org.
While I like Bernie, his politics, and his attempt to revive the Democratic Party (or expose it for the fraud it is): I don't see myself voting for him or a democratic party line.
I just hope other people wake up to the fact that the US political system has been ill for an incredibly long time.
Thursday, December 7, 2017
The slaughter of the innocents (or are you REALLY Christian? Pro-life?)
I am "watching" a show on Christmas Carols and they are discussing songs about the slaughter of the innocents ("The Coventry Carol", Byrd's "Christmas Lullaby", etc.) . Wouldn't the failure of the "pro-gun/pro-life Christians" to address the modern slaughter of the innocents relate to this in some way? I think about this and a modern slaughter of the innocents and the failure to address this by people who call themselves "Christians".
Yes, I am talking about what happened in Connecticut during this season. And all the other children who die from firearms in the US.
I shouldn't need to explain what this refers to in the gospel.
Come on: have you actually read that book you claim to believe in or are you a bunch of lazy fucks who think they can be "saved" by mere belief and a failure to act on what you claim to believe in?
A "Christian" ex-girlfriend pointed out to me that Christ was pretty emphatic that you needed to ACT in a way consistent with his teaching.
Otherwise you are just one of the Pharisees.
In this case, you can side with Herod and tolerate the slaughter of innocents.
Or you can realise that life is really sacred and that deadly force should indeed be a last resort, only to be used when all other options have been exhausted.
If you side with Christ and are truly pro-life, then you need to abandon the horrible sin that is the "pro-gun" and "gun right" movement since that is what you claim to believe.
Otherwise, you may find out the truth when you arrive at the "last judgement", but hope like fuck that I am wrong.
But, I think things will be very hot for you in your hell.
(Although, I know my "Christian" ex-girlfriend is happy for the time being).
Yes, I am talking about what happened in Connecticut during this season. And all the other children who die from firearms in the US.
I shouldn't need to explain what this refers to in the gospel.
Come on: have you actually read that book you claim to believe in or are you a bunch of lazy fucks who think they can be "saved" by mere belief and a failure to act on what you claim to believe in?
A "Christian" ex-girlfriend pointed out to me that Christ was pretty emphatic that you needed to ACT in a way consistent with his teaching.
Otherwise you are just one of the Pharisees.
In this case, you can side with Herod and tolerate the slaughter of innocents.
Or you can realise that life is really sacred and that deadly force should indeed be a last resort, only to be used when all other options have been exhausted.
If you side with Christ and are truly pro-life, then you need to abandon the horrible sin that is the "pro-gun" and "gun right" movement since that is what you claim to believe.
Otherwise, you may find out the truth when you arrive at the "last judgement", but hope like fuck that I am wrong.
But, I think things will be very hot for you in your hell.
(Although, I know my "Christian" ex-girlfriend is happy for the time being).
Sunday, November 5, 2017
Sorry, but Laci is no longer taking new cases.
From the Washington Post:
Too bad the PD was unaware of Laci, since he could have used her as a quite willing Canine counsel for his client in cases of judges with acute robeitis.
A suspect in an interrogation told detectives to “just give me a lawyer dog,” the Louisiana Supreme Court ruled that the suspect was, in fact, asking for a “lawyer dog,” and not invoking his constitutional right to counsel. It’s not clear how many lawyer dogs there are in Louisiana, and whether any would have been available to represent the human suspect in this case, other than to give the standard admonition in such circumstances to simply stop talking.While Laci strongly believes in the Constitutional Right to Counsel, she is no longer taking cases. Even if she were willing to take this case on, she is not licensed to practise in Louisiana.
Too bad the PD was unaware of Laci, since he could have used her as a quite willing Canine counsel for his client in cases of judges with acute robeitis.
Saturday, November 4, 2017
Shorter Refutation of Ta-Nehsi Coates
This relates to my previous post:
Clarence Thomas is a Supreme Court Justice.That pretty much says that an incompetent black person can indeed get into high office in the US.
A Response to Ta-Nehsi Coates
According to Newsweek, Ta-Nehsi Coates said this about Trump:
This is one of the most politically ignorant comments a person could make: especially after the last election.
Since Mr. Coates seemed to have missed it: two of the most unpopular candidates to ever run were chosen. Hillary Clinton was chosen to be the Democratic nominee long before anyone even voted in a primary.
Donald Trump was supposed to be a Candidate who Clinton could beat. Note Ben Carson is also on the list.
Ben Carson has the charisma of a mannequin, but I am sure it would be President Carson if the powers that be wanted it. They would have built him up the same way they built up Trump.
We would have a trained chimp if the powers that be wanted it. The only reason the US didn't get Bonzo in 1980 was that he was long dead. The powers that be went with his co-star, Ronald Reagan.
Hell, we had George W. Bush (another election thrown by the electoral college)--he is as close to a trained chimp as you can get
Seriously, were you asleep during the last election? The most popular candidate ever, Bernie Sanders, "lost" to Hillary Clinton. But that was due to the powers that be moving heaven and earth to suppress the Bernie Phenomenon. Even with all the suppression, Bernie had the momentum and probably would have been president.
Still, the Dems went with Bernie for Clinton. They preferred losing with Clinton than winning with Sanders.
The problem with that is that the same "populist" image Bernie projected was something the reality show star could also project: even though he has as much in common with the average US citizen as someone from Burkina Faso. Although, US culture is asperational and a scam artist like Trump projects the "prosperity" US citizens believe can be theirs.
Sure it may come with all Trump's bankruptcies, but its the image Trump projects which was what made him dangerous.
On the other hand, if you are saying that Trump was not supposed to happen: he was a choice that went horribly wrong for the powers that be since Clinton "should have won in a landslide". I'm not sure I can agree there since the powers that be wouldn't have let him anywhere near the White House if he were totally out of control.
The real bottom line here is that neither Clinton nor Trump would have been candidates if it were solely based on popularity and a fair election process. Or even competence. They were chosen long before the election began (Clinton DEFINITELY was).
We would have had President Sanders if the system really held free and fair elections:among other things (such as a truly free press).
The real issue here is a fucked political system that ignores popular votes and is totally questionable anyway. See also, Evaluating US electoral institutions.
Why didn't you mention that this election was held without the most of the protections of the voting rights act of 1964: that is far more germane than trying to make this an issue of race. And given the origins of that act, I thought that would be your primary agenda.
“Trump is professionally stupid,” Coates said during a lecture at the University of Pennsylvania on Wednesday.
“You cannot convince me that somebody could be black, and be that politically unqualified, and even be a governor, forget president. If Donald Trump was black, he wouldn’t have made it off the block,”
Bonzo was first choice. |
Since Mr. Coates seemed to have missed it: two of the most unpopular candidates to ever run were chosen. Hillary Clinton was chosen to be the Democratic nominee long before anyone even voted in a primary.
Donald Trump was supposed to be a Candidate who Clinton could beat. Note Ben Carson is also on the list.
Ben Carson has the charisma of a mannequin, but I am sure it would be President Carson if the powers that be wanted it. They would have built him up the same way they built up Trump.
We would have a trained chimp if the powers that be wanted it. The only reason the US didn't get Bonzo in 1980 was that he was long dead. The powers that be went with his co-star, Ronald Reagan.
Hell, we had George W. Bush (another election thrown by the electoral college)--he is as close to a trained chimp as you can get
Seriously, were you asleep during the last election? The most popular candidate ever, Bernie Sanders, "lost" to Hillary Clinton. But that was due to the powers that be moving heaven and earth to suppress the Bernie Phenomenon. Even with all the suppression, Bernie had the momentum and probably would have been president.
Still, the Dems went with Bernie for Clinton. They preferred losing with Clinton than winning with Sanders.
Sure it may come with all Trump's bankruptcies, but its the image Trump projects which was what made him dangerous.
Clinton won the popular vote, but lost in the electoral college. |
The real bottom line here is that neither Clinton nor Trump would have been candidates if it were solely based on popularity and a fair election process. Or even competence. They were chosen long before the election began (Clinton DEFINITELY was).
We would have had President Sanders if the system really held free and fair elections:among other things (such as a truly free press).
The real issue here is a fucked political system that ignores popular votes and is totally questionable anyway. See also, Evaluating US electoral institutions.
Why didn't you mention that this election was held without the most of the protections of the voting rights act of 1964: that is far more germane than trying to make this an issue of race. And given the origins of that act, I thought that would be your primary agenda.
Thursday, November 2, 2017
More of the Russiagate Scam
The Russian Mastermind behind Trump's "Win" |
The Russians got a good return on their money if they actually influenced the election.
https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/01/russian-facebook-ad-spend/
Personally, I think the Republicans should be pointing out what really led to Hillary Clinton "losing" the election: the electoral college and how screwed up the US system of elections happens to be.
The problem with that is that it also blows back on the Republicans.
Anyway, don't expect too much serious discussion of what happened in this last election since the duopoly is happy with their lock on the political process.
See also:
Wednesday, October 25, 2017
Do you believe life begins at conception?
We all know the US anti-abortion movement is full of shit when they call themselves "pro-life" otherwise Sandy Hook would have been the US's Port Arthur (if the gun control mess was even able to become as bad as it is).
That said, science fiction writer Patrick S. Tomlinson tweeted this scenario:
The reality is that we don't know if these viable embryos can actually make it to full term. Doggone has said that god is the most prolific abortionist since quite a few pregnancies end in miscarriage (I'll leave it to her to explain all that).
All I know is that foetus is not guaranteed to be born alive (or in perfect condition). On the other hand, someone who is alive really has a right to life.
That said, science fiction writer Patrick S. Tomlinson tweeted this scenario:
Whenever abortion comes up, I have a question I've been asking for ten years now of the "Life begins at Conception" crowd. In ten years, no one has EVER answered it honestly.We can make this even more interesting by saying the embryos may not make it full term, whereas the child would grow up and make a significant contribution to society.
It's a simple scenario with two outcomes. No one ever wants to pick one, because the correct answer destroys their argument. And there IS a correct answer, which is why the pro-life crowd hates the question.
Here it is. You're in a fertility clinic. Why isn't important. The fire alarm goes off. You run for the exit. As you run down this hallway, you hear a child screaming from behind a door. You throw open the door and find a five-year-old child crying for help.
He is in one corner of the room. In the other corner, you spot a frozen container labeled "1000 Viable Human Embryos." The smoke is rising. You start to choke. You know you can grab one or the other, but not both before you succumb to smoke inhalation and die, saving no one.
Do you A) save the child, or B) save the thousand embryos? There is no "C." "C" means you all die.
In a decade of arguing with anti-abortion people about the definition of human life, I have never gotten a single straight A or B answer to this question. And I never will.
They will never answer honestly, because we all instinctively understand the right answer is "A." A human child is worth more than a thousand embryos. Or ten thousand. Or a million. Because they are not the same, not morally, not ethically, not biologically.
They are lying to you to try and evoke an emotional response, a paternal response, using false-equivalency. No one believes life begins at conception. No one believes embryos are babies, or children. Those who cliam to are trying to manipulate you so they can control women
The reality is that we don't know if these viable embryos can actually make it to full term. Doggone has said that god is the most prolific abortionist since quite a few pregnancies end in miscarriage (I'll leave it to her to explain all that).
All I know is that foetus is not guaranteed to be born alive (or in perfect condition). On the other hand, someone who is alive really has a right to life.
Sunday, October 22, 2017
Where Focus is Needed...
Recently, I had a long conversation with people I care about deeply about the problem of rampant sexual harassment in US society. I tried to convey that I am entirely
sympathetic about the point, including agreeing it is FAR more often directed
at women than men (and numerically at least, than trans-gender people).
This is not an easy subject, and I mean no disrespect to any
woman (or man or transgender person).
The suffering you’ve experienced is real and wrong. I have my opinion of course, but it’s only my
opinion. This issue I’m pointing to isn’t
really about sexual harassment but is rather about how we address it. My aim is to remind us Liberals that to be
most effective, when we want focus, attention, and action on something, we have
to live to our full values, especially the value of protecting the rights of
everyone, even if their segment of the population is small or unpopular.
It is one of the more important challenges of our time that we liberals do not follow in the paths of the conservatives and begin defining our concern for other people in smaller and smaller circles. One of our greatest distinguishing features has been protecting ALL, even the unpopular, and caring for ALL, even the callous, and even if and especially when, we may be mad about something that group has done. If we are to avoid war, our focus needs to be on showing love for hate and on showing empathy for our opponents, not contempt.
I tried, ham-handedly, to express that restricting the discussion
of who was impacted to women, would/could have the impact of having others say
“Hey, why only women? Why not men
too?” Why are you creating a double-standard of concern? My reason for raising an objection to that approach is I recognize that other people are going to see that the narrow focus as unnecessary and hypocritical. Those observers are the exact people you need to convince to win your point politically. They will say, correctly, that you don’t gain anything by excluding
one sort of victim vs. another (I’ll explain that thought in a moment), but BY excluding them, many
people, not people who FAVOR harassment or abuse (who favors abuse?), but
other people, will see the complaint as seeking to define
the debate in a way that establishes one group as “more special” than any
other. It is that sort of message which
will lose that audience right from the start (or enough of it to matter) because the
audience will see you as purposefully focusing more narrow than you need and
more narrow than is fair. The other question is, after the "Me Too" campaign, what focus would you seek to change? Would you seek to limit the funding for the abuse toward transgender? I'll bet not, so then, what focus are we saving? Sexual abuse and especially sexual harassment is an epidemic and has been in this country (and others) for decades/centuries, with the difference being we don't seem to be getting very much better, but no policy at any company or law within any government is made better by limiting the discussion to one set of victims, and so, neither is the discussion.
To illustrate the point, please consider your reaction to
the following. Men, overwhelmingly,
serve in our armed forces (and those of other armies). Men who serve in combat, especially those who
serve in longer wars or repeated deployments where they see combat, nearly
always suffer from some form of PTSD.
Whether it’s nightmares, the “1000 yard stare”, flashbacks, depression,
the issues are there and they are VERY real points of pain for those men. Were someone to say, “We need to stand up and
help MEN who suffer from PTSD. If you
are a MAN who is hurting, please reply with ‘I’m Hurting’”, would you feel that
was appropriate? My question would be,
why exclude women? Even if less
prevalent, is it less real? Should we
only provide funding for treating men, as a result? Yes, men are the by far and
away more impacted group, but failing to include women in the conversation is a
glaring hole, and does not help the cause at all. There’s no reason to do so. You don’t “lose focus”, nor is there a better
time for talking about women’s cases, because it’s not the sex of the victim which
is important, it’s the illness or in the case of Sexual Harassment (or abuse),
it’s not the sex of the victim, it’s the act.
Seeking to limit the discussion to one sex marginalizes the impact to
anyone else. I’m fairly certain that
transgender people suffer massive amounts of sexual identity discrimination and
taunting, taunting which leaves them feeling cheapened and abused in the same
way casual sexual harassment causes a sense of being cheapened and abused. They are no less deserving of our sympathy
and support and the issue is not any less “focused” by including them. My son made a brilliant comment about this whole point, people seek empathy, not sympathy. Empathy is learned from many experiences and it is not necessary those experiences be the exact same for the other person to have empathy.
Also, while it might seem like it, I don't feel this is a debate of having too few resources
to confront the issue. Would anyone truly argue we should deny equal protection to men (or women) in court from abuse? Would they argue that a perpetrator shouldn't have to pay if the victim were transgender? We aren't "short on resources" here and even if we were, we'd never (should never) condone a dividing line based on sex, or religion, or race. As an example, would anyone support a stance saying we should only focus
on female drug addicts, because they very often have kids and we only have
limited resources?
The purpose of this post and point is this, Liberals, me and
people like me, have long stood for inclusion.
We defend the rights of unpopular people, we consider everyone the EQUAL
under the law and since law is the lowest rung of morality, to be moral, we
have to consider their rights to be our moral responsibility to protect, not
just our legal responsibility. When we
start creating special categories, we start to create the very divisions we
strive to tear down. When we do it needlessly
(or if not needlessly, without good justification) we look hypocritical and we
lose the audience we are trying to persuade.
The reality is we can come up with a million ways to define any difference, and use that as justification to make one group “more special”, it’s not hard, there’s always one way or another, and in so doing, marginalize others. As long as you demand different treatment based on race, sex, religion .... you will have distinction and from distinction, bias. That point, THAT concept that we must fight against policies which demand different bathrooms, different seats on the bus, EVEN IF EQUAL, has been a fundamental tenet of liberalism for more than 60 years. We recognize that the perpetuation of that distinction is what drives bigotry, or at least, we used to.
Most important, we cannot succeed if our initial message
includes an element of exclusion because the knee-jerk reaction will be that WE
are biased, we will then be tuned out and they’ll never read or hear the deeper
message.
It is one of the more important challenges of our time that we liberals do not follow in the paths of the conservatives and begin defining our concern for other people in smaller and smaller circles. One of our greatest distinguishing features has been protecting ALL, even the unpopular, and caring for ALL, even the callous, and even if and especially when, we may be mad about something that group has done. If we are to avoid war, our focus needs to be on showing love for hate and on showing empathy for our opponents, not contempt.
Thursday, October 12, 2017
Why is the US plagued by insurrectionism when other Commonwealth Countries are not?
I know someone who has a T-shirt with rebellious US Colonists that says something like "right wing crazies" on it, which is patently wrong.
The US rebels were liberal in their politics (there is a reason "tory" means conservative in Commonwealth political systems). The rebellious US Colonists belonged to the liberal/whig tradition.
Which gets to the nest issue: Of all the formerly British Countries, why does the US have a problem with insurrectionism? The other countries have similar militia tradition. Australia had the most similar gun culture. Yet look how quickly Australia went from loose to strict firearm regulation.
And, yes, the other countries had rebellions.
Only the US, which fought a war for independence is the one that has a gun problem.
It was breaking with the rule of law and fighting the war for independence which led to this problem. It created the culture where Shays' Rebellion and all its various progeny, which includes the US Civil War could occur.
People should not be celebrating the American War for Independence, but looking at the suffering it caused both during and immediately after. The history which led to the US Constitution being written as an attempt to bring the rule of law to US culture.
An attempt which appears to have been a massive failure.
The French have tried to repair their similar mistake with five different republics (and a couple of Empires tossed in for good measure), yet the US is working with a broken constitution.
It's time for a change.
The US rebels were liberal in their politics (there is a reason "tory" means conservative in Commonwealth political systems). The rebellious US Colonists belonged to the liberal/whig tradition.
Which gets to the nest issue: Of all the formerly British Countries, why does the US have a problem with insurrectionism? The other countries have similar militia tradition. Australia had the most similar gun culture. Yet look how quickly Australia went from loose to strict firearm regulation.
And, yes, the other countries had rebellions.
Only the US, which fought a war for independence is the one that has a gun problem.
It was breaking with the rule of law and fighting the war for independence which led to this problem. It created the culture where Shays' Rebellion and all its various progeny, which includes the US Civil War could occur.
People should not be celebrating the American War for Independence, but looking at the suffering it caused both during and immediately after. The history which led to the US Constitution being written as an attempt to bring the rule of law to US culture.
An attempt which appears to have been a massive failure.
The French have tried to repair their similar mistake with five different republics (and a couple of Empires tossed in for good measure), yet the US is working with a broken constitution.
It's time for a change.
Thursday, October 5, 2017
An open letter to the US Legislature.
I am tired of you lot being a bunch of Galahs on the issue of gun control.
Australia’s political climate surrounding this issue at the time of the Port Arthur Massacre was eerily similar to that of the US, yet the Australians were able to cut through the non-sense and enact serious and effective gun control laws.
Prof. Simon Chapman was one of the activists and politicians involved in the rapid passing of Australia's sane gun laws. His Over Our Dead Bodies: Port Arthur and the Fight for Gun Control – Australia’s last gun massacre is now a free E-book and available at the following link:
http://bit.ly/YZtHQ2
You don't really need to grow a set, but can do what former Australian Prime Minister John Howard did and wear a bullet proof vest under your suit.
But it makes sense to ban automatic and semi-automatic weapons for the safety of all Americans.
The right to life is far more important than any illusory right to arms.
Australia’s political climate surrounding this issue at the time of the Port Arthur Massacre was eerily similar to that of the US, yet the Australians were able to cut through the non-sense and enact serious and effective gun control laws.
Prof. Simon Chapman was one of the activists and politicians involved in the rapid passing of Australia's sane gun laws. His Over Our Dead Bodies: Port Arthur and the Fight for Gun Control – Australia’s last gun massacre is now a free E-book and available at the following link:
http://bit.ly/YZtHQ2
You don't really need to grow a set, but can do what former Australian Prime Minister John Howard did and wear a bullet proof vest under your suit.
But it makes sense to ban automatic and semi-automatic weapons for the safety of all Americans.
The right to life is far more important than any illusory right to arms.
Tuesday, October 3, 2017
What if the Las Vegas shooter's weapon was perfectly legal?
OK, I'm not talking NFA firearm or illegally converted semi-auto, but a gizmo called "bump-fire".
This ties into my previous post about banning semi-auto. Gunloons want to talk about "cosmetic" bullshit: we can get to functional. These arms can be made to fire incredibly rapidly in a few ways
As I said, these weapons are easily made to fire in a fully automatic mode and should be regulated accordingly.
See also:
This ties into my previous post about banning semi-auto. Gunloons want to talk about "cosmetic" bullshit: we can get to functional. These arms can be made to fire incredibly rapidly in a few ways
The rapid pace of the gunfire suggested that the shooter was using either a fully automatic weapon, tightly restricted under US law, or that he had attached a device to a semi-automatic gun to make it fire more continuously, said Massad Ayoob, a firearms expert, instructor and author. “It’s faster than almost any human being is going to be able to pull a trigger on a semi-automatic,” Ayoob said.
Fully automatic weapons, which fire multiple rounds of ammunition from a single pull of the trigger, are strictly regulated, taxed and tracked under US law. This makes them expensive collectors’ items, and comparatively rarely used in crimes. Semi-automatic rifles, in contrast, which fire only one round of ammunition with each pull of the trigger, are widely available.
Unlike some states, Nevada, which has laws generally friendly to gun owners, does not ban the sale of “assault weapons” – semi-automatic civilian guns built to resemble military weapons.
From listening to the footage of the attack, Ayoob said that the gunshots “did not sound as consistent” as he would typically expect from a fully automatic M-16 or AK-47. “The pace of fire is a little bit erratic. At one point it’s slower than it is at another point.”
Paddock could have used a Hellfire or a bump-fire device, which attach to normal semi-automatic rifles and allow them to fire more rapidly, Ayoob said. These devices are legal, but rarely used by serious shooters, he said.
As I said, these weapons are easily made to fire in a fully automatic mode and should be regulated accordingly.
See also:
Monday, October 2, 2017
Ban semi-automatic weapons
Listening to the online vids of the Las Vegas shooting, it sounds as if a fully auto weapons, or
something which has been modified to fire extremely quickly (e.g., bump
fire) was used in these shootings.
I like the idea of regulating assault weapons as machineguns, his example of an M1 Carbine would be an assault rifle in my opinion because:
In selective fire versions capable of fully-automatic fire, the carbine is designated the M2 carbine.
which places it in the 26 USC 5845 definition of a Machine gun:
I strongly suggest that people read the case law 26 USC 5845 in particular the law relating to “designed to shoot” and “readily restored to shoot”:
Anyway, there are enough manuals out there on how to turn semi-automatic weapons into full auto that it should be a no-brainer that these firearms fit the above description of readily restorable.
Let's throw in things like bump fire and other mods that turn these weapons into fully automatic fire without making an actual conversion.
Bottom line: too much talk has been about gun rights, rights come with responsibilities. It's time we start factoring in that too many people are not responsible gun owners.
And they are usually the ones screaming about their rights.
The Second Amendment as written gives no personal right to arms outside the context of actual membership in a well-regulated militia.
The Heller-McDonald regime are incredibly friendly to firearms regulation and held that registration, licensing, and background checks were constitutional. Additionally, some people obviously haven’t read the DC v. Heller decision, in particular page 54. They could also do with reading footnotes 23 and 26. Heller did not get rid of firearms regulations. In fact, I have pointed out that Dick Heller was denied a permit for one of his guns. The DC Metropolitan Police notes on its website that: “about 50 applications to register handguns have been denied since the Heller decision”.
Now, let's start talking about gun responsibilities and keeping guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't even dream of owning them.
I like the idea of regulating assault weapons as machineguns, his example of an M1 Carbine would be an assault rifle in my opinion because:
In selective fire versions capable of fully-automatic fire, the carbine is designated the M2 carbine.
which places it in the 26 USC 5845 definition of a Machine gun:
Machine guns, defined as any firearm which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger.The M2 variant is designed to be capable of fully automatic fire, therefore, the M1 is a machinegun using that defintion.
I strongly suggest that people read the case law 26 USC 5845 in particular the law relating to “designed to shoot” and “readily restored to shoot”:
“There were two welds in the gun which obviously was, when manufactured, ‘designed to shoot.’ The barrel of the gun was welded closed at the breech and was also welded to the receiver on the outside under the handguard. Scroggie testified that there are two possible ways by which the firearm could be made to function as such. The most feasible method would be to cut the barrel off, drill a hole in the forward end of the receiver and then rethread the hole so that the same or another barrel could be inserted. To do so would take about an 8-hour working day in a properly equipped machine shop. Another method which would be more difficult because of the possibility of bending or breaking the barrel would be to drill the weld out of the breech of the barrel. United States v. Smith, 477 F.2d 399(8th Cir.1973)
In the context of the NFA and its use as a modifier describing the manner of firearm restoration, “readily” has been read to encompass several elements of restoration: (1) time, i.e., how long it takes to restore the weapon; (2) ease, i.e., how difficult it is to restore the weapon; (3) expertise, i.e., what knowledge and skills are required to restore the weapon; (4) necessary equipment, i.e., what tools are required to restore the weapon; (5) availability, i.e., where additional parts are required, how easily they can be obtained; (6) expense, i.e., how much it costs to restore the weapon; (7) scope, i.e., the extent to which the weapon has to be changed to allow it to shoot automatically; (8) feasability, i.e., whether the restoration would damage or destroy the weapon or cause it to malfunction. See S.W. Daniel, Inc. v. United States, 831 F.2d 253, 254-55 (11th Cir. 1987) (ease and scope); United States v. Alverson, 666 F.2d 341, 345 (9th Cir.1982) (expertise, ease, and scope); United States v. Smith, 477 F.2d 399, 400 (8th Cir.1973) (time and equipment); United States v. Aguilar-Espinosa, 57 F.Supp.2d 1359, 1362 (M.D.Fla.1999) (time, ease, expertise, and equipment); United States v. Seven Misc. Firearms, 503 F.Supp. 565, 573-75 (D.D.C.1980) (time, ease, expertise, equipment, availability, expense, and feasibility); United States v. Cook, No. 92-1467, 1993 WL 243823, at *3-4 (6th Cir. July 6, 1993) (availability)…There’s readily restorable for you!
The decisions of several other courts make clear that the Defendant weapon, which would require, according to Alverson’s own expert, a maximum of six hours to convert to fire automatically, “can be readily restored” under the NFA. The Eighth Circuit held that a semiautomatic rifle that would take an eight-hour working day in a properly equipped machine shop to convert to shoot automatically qualified as a “machinegun” under the NFA.10 Smith, 477 F.2d at 400; cf. United States v. Shilling, 826 F.2d 1365, 1367 (4th Cir.1987) (holding that disassembled guns that could be made to shoot automatically were “readily restor[able]”); S.W. Daniel, Inc., 831 F.2d at 254-55 (upholding the use of a jury instruction defining a machinegun as “those weapons which have not previously functioned as machine guns but possess design features which facilitate full automatic fire by simple modification or elimination of existing component parts”); Alverson, 666 F.2d at 345 (concluding that an automatic weapon that was converted to fire sLemiautomatically prior to its sale to defendant could be “readily restored” where it could be modified to shoot automatically by filing down one of its parts); United States v. Lauchli, 371 F.2d 303, 312-13 (7th Cir.1966) (in a case prior to the addition of the “can be readily restored” language to the NFA, deciding that weapons requiring assembly to shoot automatically were machineguns under the NFA). U.S. v. One TRW, Model M14, 7.62 Caliber Rifle, 441 F.3d 416(2006)
Anyway, there are enough manuals out there on how to turn semi-automatic weapons into full auto that it should be a no-brainer that these firearms fit the above description of readily restorable.
Let's throw in things like bump fire and other mods that turn these weapons into fully automatic fire without making an actual conversion.
Bottom line: too much talk has been about gun rights, rights come with responsibilities. It's time we start factoring in that too many people are not responsible gun owners.
And they are usually the ones screaming about their rights.
The Second Amendment as written gives no personal right to arms outside the context of actual membership in a well-regulated militia.
The Heller-McDonald regime are incredibly friendly to firearms regulation and held that registration, licensing, and background checks were constitutional. Additionally, some people obviously haven’t read the DC v. Heller decision, in particular page 54. They could also do with reading footnotes 23 and 26. Heller did not get rid of firearms regulations. In fact, I have pointed out that Dick Heller was denied a permit for one of his guns. The DC Metropolitan Police notes on its website that: “about 50 applications to register handguns have been denied since the Heller decision”.
Now, let's start talking about gun responsibilities and keeping guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't even dream of owning them.
Sunday, October 1, 2017
Another person's reasons for voting Green
I am posting this, which is the opinion of another Green Voter. I don't agree with everything this person says, but the reasoning is pretty much what I was hearing from the people who didn't vote for Clinton.
I think these opinions need to get out there because there is too much nonsense being spread about what happened in 2016 without examining what really went on.
I think these opinions need to get out there because there is too much nonsense being spread about what happened in 2016 without examining what really went on.
Open letter to Michelle Obama:
Dear Mrs. Obama,
At the Inbound 2017 conference in Boston you said;
"Any woman who voted against Hillary Clinton voted against their own voice,"
Over the last couple days, I've been thinking about your comments on women that didn't vote for Hillary Clinton.
I guess I'll start with saying I wanted to respond immediately, but was so angry I decided it would be best to let it sit for a bit while I processed my thoughts and emotions.
Looking at the words you chose to use is very telling-"voting against Hillary." In some way, it appears you recognize just how bad a candidate she was, that women would feel the need to "vote against" her.
I agree, many women did cast a vote against her. I have no doubt that a very large majority can tell you exactly why they did.
See Michelle, as a lifelong Democrat, I volunteered for Sen. Obama in '08. I used all of my vacation and sick time and took a leave of absence from my job at Kennedy Space Center to help get the good senator elected. I have art from the campaign office hanging in my kitchen; it has a nice positive message and in very large colorful letters it says "Yes We Can!"
There's a picture of now former VP Joe Biden, my husband, and myself at the campaign office on my fridge.
But I was not one of those that "voted against" Hillary Clinton even though there were plenty reasons to. Before my vote, there was a year of consideration, watching debates and speeches, knocking on doors, making phone calls, writing checks, discussing the candidates with friends and family, going to the DNC Convention, and don't forget crying. Oh, there was crying.
There was crying because of the missed opportunities, the lies and deceptions. I might not have voted against anything or anyone, but I sure as Hell was not going to vote for more of that.
My vote went to the other woman on the ticket, my vote went to the person I felt had the platform and moral integrity that most aligned with my beliefs.
I long for the day a woman sits behind the desk in the Oval Office of the White House, and I pray it happens in my lifetime. But it can't just be any woman, it has to be the right woman.
Hillary's loss had nothing to do with husbands telling their wives how to vote or not knowing one's voice. This was one of the most closely followed and well financed elections in our country's history. No, it has everything to do with Hillary's record and the Neo-Liberal agenda of your husband that at every turn, Hillary said she said she wanted to advance.
That brings me to my second point.
Where was your voice?
Where was your voice, Michelle, when your Peace Prize winning husband dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016 alone on a plethora of countries without even having the good grace or decency to declare war on these people? All told, he bombed 7 different countries. I'm curious, do you know the number of innocent women and children that were killed or maimed by these bombs? It must be in the 10's of thousands. Did you talk about this with your husband when you laid down at night?
Where was your voice when Barrack (our self proclaimed environmental president) signed off on a record number of natural gas, oil pipelines, and renewed drilling in the Gulf of Mexico?
Where was your voice when human rights violations were being committed on American and Native Peoples in Standing Rock by the same police President Obama allowed to become militarized, including using chemical agents that, according to the Geneva Convention, are illegal in warfare. As well as allowing private contractors to set dogs on peaceful people, using water cannons on them at well below freezing temperatures, shooting people with exploding devices that blew a large part of a young women's arm off. Where was your voice then Michelle?
Where was your voice when your husband gave trillions in taxpayers dollars to the big banks that caused the crash of '08 mere months after appointing the very cabinet that CitiGroup told him to? (thank you Wikileaks for that email)
I suppose it's no surprise that none of these bankers were jailed or that the rules are still in place that would allow the very same scenario to happen again.
Where was your voice when your husband, who was voted in on a platform of labeling GMOs, decided to side with Monsanto?
Where was your voice, Michelle, when record breaking numbers of People of Color were being shot down like dogs in the streets by the police your husband helped militarize? Where was your voice when for profit prison slavery continued on and on and on?
Where was your voice when newly elected President Obama didn't fight with everything he had for a public option? For me, this was the first indication that something was rotten in Rome. See, I'd just finished fighting for my life not only against breast cancer but having breast cancer with no health insurance.
Where was your voice when your husband deported 2.5 million undocumented people?
Where was your voice when your husband signed the NDAA making government propaganda legal and making it legal to assassinate and imprison Americans w/o charge or trial.
Where was your voice when he used Espionage Act to prosecute more whistleblowers than all previous administrations combined? Or when he pushed the TPP?
Where Michelle, where was your voice when your husband said that our elections are not rigged when in one precinct alone, over 100,000 voters were purged from voter rolls, Donna Brazil was giving Hillary the questions to debates, or when DNC head Debbie Wasserman-Schultz resigned under the dark cloud of corruption from the DNC, only to be hired by Hillary?
Where was your voice when the Super Delegates declared their votes at the beginning of the primary?
Where was your voice when during the DNC Fraud Lawsuit Federal Judge Zloch said, "Democracy deserves the truth."
I could go on, but you know the record, you had a front row seat.
In closing, I'll acknowledge I've asked you a lot of questions, but my real question is this:
Michelle, do you know your voice?
Wednesday, September 27, 2017
I don't get the Russian Interference accusation.
OK, didn't Clinton supporters tell us that there was no issue in regard to her e-mails? Yet it seems that any Russian interference relates to her and others around her e-mails being made public.
I think anyone who said that Hillary's (and other Democratic Committee members) e-mails weren't an issue should be precluded from saying there was Russian Interference.
We don't even need to get into the likelihood that the e-mails weren't hacked, but were leaked by a DNC insider.
The next question would be how did Russians rig the election if it wasn't the e-mail thing? Were they responsible for Bernie Sanders treatment?
And if I remember correctly, most of the leaked e-mails showed how the DNC screwed Bernie and wanted Trump as an opponent because he would be easy to beat (which he was in terms of the popular vote).
The other possibility is they somehow rigged the voting, yet HILLARY WON THE POPULAR VOTE! I'm going to keep hammering on how the Electoral College distorts the vote and is supposed to thwart the popular vote.
For there to have been local interference, the Russians would have had to had their hand in the choice of voting machines that were not auditable among other things. But the US is neither an Republic nor a Democracy in that it does not really have free and fair elections.
You can't blame the Russians for that.
It would make far more sense to assess the US process of elections than to blame the Russians.
See also:
I think anyone who said that Hillary's (and other Democratic Committee members) e-mails weren't an issue should be precluded from saying there was Russian Interference.
We don't even need to get into the likelihood that the e-mails weren't hacked, but were leaked by a DNC insider.
The next question would be how did Russians rig the election if it wasn't the e-mail thing? Were they responsible for Bernie Sanders treatment?
And if I remember correctly, most of the leaked e-mails showed how the DNC screwed Bernie and wanted Trump as an opponent because he would be easy to beat (which he was in terms of the popular vote).
The other possibility is they somehow rigged the voting, yet HILLARY WON THE POPULAR VOTE! I'm going to keep hammering on how the Electoral College distorts the vote and is supposed to thwart the popular vote.
For there to have been local interference, the Russians would have had to had their hand in the choice of voting machines that were not auditable among other things. But the US is neither an Republic nor a Democracy in that it does not really have free and fair elections.
You can't blame the Russians for that.
It would make far more sense to assess the US process of elections than to blame the Russians.
See also:
Monday, September 25, 2017
Respecting The Flag and Service
The Flag of the United States is a symbol of the United States. There is an unofficial flag code that says you should stand for the flag as it passes by. There is also a request that you stand during our national anthem. None of these are laws. Not doing so is, perhaps, rude. To some, it's disrespectful to the anthem (or the flag).
I served in the US Army (and reserves) for 12 years (the vast majority of that was reserve time, full disclosure). One reason I did so was to help pay for school, but the other, the more important is that my family (and I) have deep and long-standing feelings that this experiment, this democratic example, represented something special. It represented a nation committed to protecting the rights of those who were unpopular, a nation committed to making sure people were represented without restriction, were free to speak, free to vote, and where they could grow up believing the government acted, in general, with good purpose to protect everyone and pursue democracy FOR everyone, regardless of race, or religion, or ethnicity, or creed. One which, the vast majority of time, acted with integrity because WE, Americans, for the most part, did so, and expected nothing less from our government. I felt that was honorable and something to be preserved, even at the cost of life, even my life, if needed.
The foundation of that system of government was a Constitution which was elegant in it's simplicity, yet rich in meaning. There were letters and words which constructed the stated rights, but more importantly, there were ideas behind the words which expressed an intent. That intent may have been more (or less) limited due to the age in which the words were drafted, but equally clearly, the drafters expected views to evolve. They expected not just that the document might be altered to adjust to the times, but that the understanding and application of the words would evolve. That's not a point for debate, they said exactly such, especially Jefferson who did much of the authoring.
A fundamental protection which ensures the preservation of that democracy, that ideal, is that people have the right to protest without fear of reprisal by the government. Reprisal doesn't have to take the form of overt use of force against those who are dissenting from an action by the government to be sinister and effective in shutting down dissent. Putting people on black-lists, saying they should never be able to work in their field again (as Joe McCarthy requested) is tremendously effective in shutting down the voices of others who might have spoken out against the government. Saying the employer should turn over the comments which employees make in private, on social media, to the government and then having some governmental representative request some sort of reprisal by the employer, would have the same effect.
In the case of the President of the United States asking employers to fire those who do not agree with his opinion about the "flag code" would, equally, have the same effect. It will, if he were effective, would result in those who would otherwise want to protest anything, refrain from doing so. In fact, we've seen that effect with Colin Kapernick. Capernick was a moderately capable NFL QB who was the first to show his displeasure with the state of policing in the US by declining to stand during the playing of our national anthem. His employers, NFL owners, decided to act against Capernick, by failing to continue to employ him. They said it was due to his lack of talent, and that may be part of the reason, but when others, others who were clearly talented enough to be employed, chose to do so, the owners were put in a bind, either fire those (or suspend those) who were speaking out (and potentially embarrassing the NFS in the owners' minds), or, as they have done, acknowledge their employees often come from a rough background, and in some cases, the neighborhoods they grew up in, and the neighbors they still know and love, might be being subjected to profoundly unfair treatment by the police (and by the courts), and so, by the government. So, they were using the form available, the forum MOST likely to reach people, to protest.
We can argue whether they should do so, but we CANNOT/MUST not shy away from the reality that it is not the government's place to act against them. If we want to maintain our democratic institutions, we have to push back on the government when it starts acting to squelch dissent.
So, to me, it's FAR more important to stand up for people's right to speak out than it is to worry about wrapping ourselves in a symbol (a flag) or an anthem. Those symbols pale to irrelevance next to the value we embrace and preserve when we stand up for people's rights to protest, and stand up and speak out against an unfair (or even brutal) system which we, the people, have allowed to develop in response to our fears. Freedom is often a balancing act of weighing our individual safety against the rights of other individuals to act as they chose. Freedom is rarely ever needing to choose between individual rights and the trappings of nationalism. That choice is normally only required in states which lack freedom, in totalitarian states. Mr. Trump is asking our citizens to boycott the business where people are protesting brutality. While I'd embrace Mr. Trump's right to do so if he were a private citizen, once he becomes President, it instead looks like the government seeking to limit speech and in specific, Mr. Trump looks to be squelching dissent about himself.
Standing up for the rights of those with whom we disagree is, therefore, to me the far greater respect for our flag and our country and our ideals than any number of people standing up when a song is song will ever provide.
I served in the US Army (and reserves) for 12 years (the vast majority of that was reserve time, full disclosure). One reason I did so was to help pay for school, but the other, the more important is that my family (and I) have deep and long-standing feelings that this experiment, this democratic example, represented something special. It represented a nation committed to protecting the rights of those who were unpopular, a nation committed to making sure people were represented without restriction, were free to speak, free to vote, and where they could grow up believing the government acted, in general, with good purpose to protect everyone and pursue democracy FOR everyone, regardless of race, or religion, or ethnicity, or creed. One which, the vast majority of time, acted with integrity because WE, Americans, for the most part, did so, and expected nothing less from our government. I felt that was honorable and something to be preserved, even at the cost of life, even my life, if needed.
The foundation of that system of government was a Constitution which was elegant in it's simplicity, yet rich in meaning. There were letters and words which constructed the stated rights, but more importantly, there were ideas behind the words which expressed an intent. That intent may have been more (or less) limited due to the age in which the words were drafted, but equally clearly, the drafters expected views to evolve. They expected not just that the document might be altered to adjust to the times, but that the understanding and application of the words would evolve. That's not a point for debate, they said exactly such, especially Jefferson who did much of the authoring.
A fundamental protection which ensures the preservation of that democracy, that ideal, is that people have the right to protest without fear of reprisal by the government. Reprisal doesn't have to take the form of overt use of force against those who are dissenting from an action by the government to be sinister and effective in shutting down dissent. Putting people on black-lists, saying they should never be able to work in their field again (as Joe McCarthy requested) is tremendously effective in shutting down the voices of others who might have spoken out against the government. Saying the employer should turn over the comments which employees make in private, on social media, to the government and then having some governmental representative request some sort of reprisal by the employer, would have the same effect.
In the case of the President of the United States asking employers to fire those who do not agree with his opinion about the "flag code" would, equally, have the same effect. It will, if he were effective, would result in those who would otherwise want to protest anything, refrain from doing so. In fact, we've seen that effect with Colin Kapernick. Capernick was a moderately capable NFL QB who was the first to show his displeasure with the state of policing in the US by declining to stand during the playing of our national anthem. His employers, NFL owners, decided to act against Capernick, by failing to continue to employ him. They said it was due to his lack of talent, and that may be part of the reason, but when others, others who were clearly talented enough to be employed, chose to do so, the owners were put in a bind, either fire those (or suspend those) who were speaking out (and potentially embarrassing the NFS in the owners' minds), or, as they have done, acknowledge their employees often come from a rough background, and in some cases, the neighborhoods they grew up in, and the neighbors they still know and love, might be being subjected to profoundly unfair treatment by the police (and by the courts), and so, by the government. So, they were using the form available, the forum MOST likely to reach people, to protest.
We can argue whether they should do so, but we CANNOT/MUST not shy away from the reality that it is not the government's place to act against them. If we want to maintain our democratic institutions, we have to push back on the government when it starts acting to squelch dissent.
So, to me, it's FAR more important to stand up for people's right to speak out than it is to worry about wrapping ourselves in a symbol (a flag) or an anthem. Those symbols pale to irrelevance next to the value we embrace and preserve when we stand up for people's rights to protest, and stand up and speak out against an unfair (or even brutal) system which we, the people, have allowed to develop in response to our fears. Freedom is often a balancing act of weighing our individual safety against the rights of other individuals to act as they chose. Freedom is rarely ever needing to choose between individual rights and the trappings of nationalism. That choice is normally only required in states which lack freedom, in totalitarian states. Mr. Trump is asking our citizens to boycott the business where people are protesting brutality. While I'd embrace Mr. Trump's right to do so if he were a private citizen, once he becomes President, it instead looks like the government seeking to limit speech and in specific, Mr. Trump looks to be squelching dissent about himself.
Standing up for the rights of those with whom we disagree is, therefore, to me the far greater respect for our flag and our country and our ideals than any number of people standing up when a song is song will ever provide.
Friday, September 22, 2017
Good resources on the electoral college and how it distorts the vote.
The first one is this report from the Pew Charitable trust on how the Electoral College distorts the
vote.
The second is this map at 270towin.com which demonstrates that Green voters did not sway the election. Yes, I could have wasted my vote on Clinton adding to her popular vote victory, but it would have done fuck all in the long run other than piss me off.
The lesson of Bernie Sanders was the US system of elections is anything but free and fair, which means the US is neither a democracy or a republic.
FairVote has a really good section on the Electoral College and how it does none of the things it is claimed to do. It doesn't give the smaller states any equality and it doesn't create a national president. In fact, the 2016 campaign was pretty much in 4 states!
And let's not forget that the Electoral College was to prevent incompetents from being president as well as foreign powers somehow influencing the election.
Seriously, the Electoral College needs to go along with a lot of other electoral reforms before you can say this is a republic or a democracy.
vote.
The second is this map at 270towin.com which demonstrates that Green voters did not sway the election. Yes, I could have wasted my vote on Clinton adding to her popular vote victory, but it would have done fuck all in the long run other than piss me off.
The lesson of Bernie Sanders was the US system of elections is anything but free and fair, which means the US is neither a democracy or a republic.
FairVote has a really good section on the Electoral College and how it does none of the things it is claimed to do. It doesn't give the smaller states any equality and it doesn't create a national president. In fact, the 2016 campaign was pretty much in 4 states!
And let's not forget that the Electoral College was to prevent incompetents from being president as well as foreign powers somehow influencing the election.
Seriously, the Electoral College needs to go along with a lot of other electoral reforms before you can say this is a republic or a democracy.
Monday, September 18, 2017
MISOGYNISTS FOR JILL STEIN
That sounds pretty dumb doesn't it, but that is sort of what happened if you listen to the Clinton supporters. They liked playing the woman card in both 2008 and 2016.
Remember "Obama Bros"? And there is talk that the Barack Obama was a Kenyan Muslim began with somebody from Clinton's campaign back in 2008.
Given that the ad hominem attack is the sign somebody is losing the debate, we could indeed say Clinton lost before she even started running.
BUT
People need to ponder the significance of this picture since it pretty much sums up what is wrong with politics in the US.
While Hillary's running wasn't the main reason I voted Green, it was one small factor in that decision.
And it reflected that the current state of US politics is broken. Hillary was the symptom, not the disease.
ANYONE who isn't aware of this and discussing what the real problem is can't really make an accurate statement about what went wrong. So, they are going to say silly things like "misogyny caused Clinton the election", "Jill Stein and the Greens caused Hillary the election", or "Russians stole the election".
Even if all those reasons are total BULLSHIT.
The Fact is Hillary Clinton won the popular vote with 65,853,516 (48.5% votes) to Trump's 62,984,825 (46.4% votes), but lost in the electoral college by receiving 232 (43.1%) of the electoral votes to Trump's 306 (56.8%) votes.
That means the only thing which made Donald Trump president was the electoral college, an institution created by the US Constitution (Article II, Section 1, Clauses 2-4).
I'm not sure who or where this was posted in a newsgroup, but it sums up the thinking of the Jill Stein voters:
See also:
Why Electoral College wins are bigger than popular vote ones | Pew Research Center
Remember "Obama Bros"? And there is talk that the Barack Obama was a Kenyan Muslim began with somebody from Clinton's campaign back in 2008.
Given that the ad hominem attack is the sign somebody is losing the debate, we could indeed say Clinton lost before she even started running.
BUT
People need to ponder the significance of this picture since it pretty much sums up what is wrong with politics in the US.
While Hillary's running wasn't the main reason I voted Green, it was one small factor in that decision.
And it reflected that the current state of US politics is broken. Hillary was the symptom, not the disease.
ANYONE who isn't aware of this and discussing what the real problem is can't really make an accurate statement about what went wrong. So, they are going to say silly things like "misogyny caused Clinton the election", "Jill Stein and the Greens caused Hillary the election", or "Russians stole the election".
Even if all those reasons are total BULLSHIT.
The Fact is Hillary Clinton won the popular vote with 65,853,516 (48.5% votes) to Trump's 62,984,825 (46.4% votes), but lost in the electoral college by receiving 232 (43.1%) of the electoral votes to Trump's 306 (56.8%) votes.
That means the only thing which made Donald Trump president was the electoral college, an institution created by the US Constitution (Article II, Section 1, Clauses 2-4).
I'm not sure who or where this was posted in a newsgroup, but it sums up the thinking of the Jill Stein voters:
So let play something out, if we vote for Jill Stein (which we will) and she gets enough electoral votes that it keeps either Hillary or Donald from receiving enough electoral votes to grab the nomination, then Congress will vote from the top three to be the next president. We all know how much both parties hate Donald and that they are to corrupt to vote for Jill. So who does that leave? So in all actuality a vote for Jill isn't a vote for trump. And if we get enough people to vote for her we will get a third party. If everyone voting fear because they are scared of Trump voted for Jill she would win hands down. Here is the true argument we should be telling the fear voters. And if no one gets enough electoral votes, we will then see in full view that it is rigged by the fact both parties will vote for her. So in the least a vote for Jill is a vote for Hillary, at most a vote for Jill is a vote for Jill. Either way we would at the least have a third party nationally recognized from now on. Lets push this talking point. I think it might sway the scared people into voting their conscience knowing Donald won't get the presidency.I know that my reasons for voting for the Green Party relate to a broken system: and not anything else.
See also:
Why Electoral College wins are bigger than popular vote ones | Pew Research Center
Thursday, September 14, 2017
United States v. Cruikshank 92 U.S. 542 (1875), the "lost" Second Amendment case
The Second Amendment part is short, very short:
But, it is quite pithy. Why would the Second Amendment right only mean that the "right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution"? Why is it that the right granted " shall not be infringed by Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government"?
Presser v Illinois, 116 U.S. 252, 6 S.Ct. 580, 29 L.Ed. 615 (1886), discusses Cruikshank, but it doesn't really go beyond what was said above. Like McDonald, Presser was looking into the application of the Second Amendment to state law, but it came up with different results altogether.
Maybe because the Second Amendment right only relates to Congress' power under Article I, Section 8, Clause 16:
By the way, Justice William O. Douglas, who was on the Supreme Court at the time Miller was decided, glossed Miller in his dissent to Adams v. Williams, 407 U.S 143, 150 -51 (1972).
McDonald was an absurdity which I am amazed four justices could tolerate, but it probably came about because the sentiments of the time are to rip the Second Amendment from the constitutional framework of providing for the common defence.
The US Constitution is silent on the topic of self-defence. Expressio unius est exclusio alterius.
Anyway, one of the many failings of the gun control side in the Heller debate was its failure to rely on stare decisis since SCOTUS's case law was on board and most of the primary sources support the "civic right" interpretation. Now, we are stuck with two bad legal decisions from a high court to cause mischief. Fortunately, Heller-McDonald was limited, but there is more than enough case law to show "well-regulated" means under strict control (including USC art I,sec. 8, clause 14).
The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second Amendments means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government.One would have to say it is cryptic. At least on first glance.
But, it is quite pithy. Why would the Second Amendment right only mean that the "right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution"? Why is it that the right granted " shall not be infringed by Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government"?
Presser v Illinois, 116 U.S. 252, 6 S.Ct. 580, 29 L.Ed. 615 (1886), discusses Cruikshank, but it doesn't really go beyond what was said above. Like McDonald, Presser was looking into the application of the Second Amendment to state law, but it came up with different results altogether.
Maybe because the Second Amendment right only relates to Congress' power under Article I, Section 8, Clause 16:
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;This would mean that the first three US Supreme Court cases ALL said that the right related to this power. Or as US v Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939), stated:
The Constitution as originally adopted granted to the Congress power- 'To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions; To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.' U.S.C.A.Const. art. 1, 8. With obvious purpose to assure the continuation and render possible the effectiveness of such forces the declaration and guarantee of the Second Amendment were made. It must be interpreted and applied with that end in view.The emphasised portion demonstrates that Scalia was correct when he said that Miller was not helpful to his analysis. Prior Supreme Court cases found that the right related to militia efficacy, not private arms or self-defence. Scalia was correct, the case law and precedents of the Court as stated in Cruikshank, Presser, and Miller totally contradict the Heller and McDonald decisions.
The Militia which the States were expected to maintain and train is set in contrast with Troops which they were forbidden to keep without the consent of Congress. The sentiment of the time strongly disfavored standing armies; the common view was that adequate defense of country and laws could be secured through the Militia- civilians primarily, soldiers on occasion.
By the way, Justice William O. Douglas, who was on the Supreme Court at the time Miller was decided, glossed Miller in his dissent to Adams v. Williams, 407 U.S 143, 150 -51 (1972).
McDonald was an absurdity which I am amazed four justices could tolerate, but it probably came about because the sentiments of the time are to rip the Second Amendment from the constitutional framework of providing for the common defence.
The US Constitution is silent on the topic of self-defence. Expressio unius est exclusio alterius.
Anyway, one of the many failings of the gun control side in the Heller debate was its failure to rely on stare decisis since SCOTUS's case law was on board and most of the primary sources support the "civic right" interpretation. Now, we are stuck with two bad legal decisions from a high court to cause mischief. Fortunately, Heller-McDonald was limited, but there is more than enough case law to show "well-regulated" means under strict control (including USC art I,sec. 8, clause 14).
Monday, September 11, 2017
What about the parents?
DACA is Deferred Action for CHILDHOOD Arrivals, which makes me wonder what about the parents?
Seriously.
First off, the parents of these kids are the ones responsible for the kids' lack of proper immigration status, but more importantly what is the status of the parents? I think it might be safe to assume that the parents are also unlawfully present in the US.
Let's toss in that these caring parents have chosen a path which could lead to the children being deported and barred for anywhere from five, ten, or 20 years, and in some cases, ever being able to return to the U.S. at all. Not to mention that is could mean NEVER becoming a US citizen.
Why isn't that being discussed?
So, we are supposed to feel sorry for these poor children who came here unlawfully because mommy and daddy weren't willing to obey the rules. The kiddies are being snatched from a nation where they don't have a legal right to be (immigration is a privilege, not a right).
And families are being broken apart.
What?????
But if the parents are being deported, shouldn't the children as well?
Anyway, I would rather have someone like Abdi Iftin or a few hundred thousand Rohinga Muslims who are willing to follow the rules enter the country than allow someone who should be barred from citizenship according to US law to be fast tracked into citizenship,
Seriously.
First off, the parents of these kids are the ones responsible for the kids' lack of proper immigration status, but more importantly what is the status of the parents? I think it might be safe to assume that the parents are also unlawfully present in the US.
Let's toss in that these caring parents have chosen a path which could lead to the children being deported and barred for anywhere from five, ten, or 20 years, and in some cases, ever being able to return to the U.S. at all. Not to mention that is could mean NEVER becoming a US citizen.
Why isn't that being discussed?
So, we are supposed to feel sorry for these poor children who came here unlawfully because mommy and daddy weren't willing to obey the rules. The kiddies are being snatched from a nation where they don't have a legal right to be (immigration is a privilege, not a right).
And families are being broken apart.
What?????
But if the parents are being deported, shouldn't the children as well?
Anyway, I would rather have someone like Abdi Iftin or a few hundred thousand Rohinga Muslims who are willing to follow the rules enter the country than allow someone who should be barred from citizenship according to US law to be fast tracked into citizenship,
Saturday, September 9, 2017
Wasting votes
I find it odd that people who claim to be liberal and believe in democracy would demonise people who vote third parties. Especially since that is pretty anti-democratic and authoritarian behaviour to persecute people based on their political leanings.
One of the allegations is that somehow I "wasted my vote". Now, let's look at the result of the 2016 election.
Not the big 306 "votes" for Trump or the 232 "votes" for Clinton, but the real numbers representing the popular vote.
The Fact is Hillary Clinton won the popular vote with 65,853,516 (48.5% votes) to Trump's 62,984,825 (46.4% votes), but lost in the electoral college by receiving 232 (43.1%) of the electoral votes to Trump's 306 (56.8%) votes.
The fact is that the Electoral College is really where votes count, not the popular vote. But there is distortion even when the popular vote sort of aligns with the Electoral College results.
The problem is the anti-democratic Electoral College is not being discussed with all sorts of other silly theories being bandied about.
But, the bottom line is that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 3 million.
Maybe my one vote might have changed the result, but the fact is that is not likely given the nature of the Electoral College.
I should have mentioned that one of the many attractive points about the Green Party is that it was talking about meaningful election reform. They were also talking about how the duopoly has hijacked the elections. This hijacking is so bad that the League of Women Voters withdrew its sponsorship of the presidential debates in 1988 because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter.
But neither party is discussing the real result of the election, which is that Clinton won.
Personally, I know how I felt in 2000 when Gore won the popular vote only to be stripped of the victory by the US Supreme Court stopping the recounts
I don't regret the way I voted and would still do it again knowing the outcome. In fact, I feel sorry for the people who appear to not realise that the loss was in the Electoral College, not the popular vote.
I think the people who voted for Clinton are the ones who wasted their votes this time. And they will keep wasting them until real election reform becomes an issue.
And one of the most important reforms is getting rid of the Electoral College.
One of the allegations is that somehow I "wasted my vote". Now, let's look at the result of the 2016 election.
Not the big 306 "votes" for Trump or the 232 "votes" for Clinton, but the real numbers representing the popular vote.
The Fact is Hillary Clinton won the popular vote with 65,853,516 (48.5% votes) to Trump's 62,984,825 (46.4% votes), but lost in the electoral college by receiving 232 (43.1%) of the electoral votes to Trump's 306 (56.8%) votes.
The fact is that the Electoral College is really where votes count, not the popular vote. But there is distortion even when the popular vote sort of aligns with the Electoral College results.
The problem is the anti-democratic Electoral College is not being discussed with all sorts of other silly theories being bandied about.
But, the bottom line is that Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by nearly 3 million.
Maybe my one vote might have changed the result, but the fact is that is not likely given the nature of the Electoral College.
I should have mentioned that one of the many attractive points about the Green Party is that it was talking about meaningful election reform. They were also talking about how the duopoly has hijacked the elections. This hijacking is so bad that the League of Women Voters withdrew its sponsorship of the presidential debates in 1988 because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter.
But neither party is discussing the real result of the election, which is that Clinton won.
Personally, I know how I felt in 2000 when Gore won the popular vote only to be stripped of the victory by the US Supreme Court stopping the recounts
I don't regret the way I voted and would still do it again knowing the outcome. In fact, I feel sorry for the people who appear to not realise that the loss was in the Electoral College, not the popular vote.
I think the people who voted for Clinton are the ones who wasted their votes this time. And they will keep wasting them until real election reform becomes an issue.
And one of the most important reforms is getting rid of the Electoral College.
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