Saturday, May 29, 2010

Everything Old Is New Again

"January 13, 1949: Fahy Committee holds its first hearings. Representatives of the Army defend segregation of African-Americans. The Marine Corps also defends its segregation policy and admits that only one of its 8,200 officers is African-American. The Navy and Air Force both indicate they will integrate their units. The Navy admits that only five of its 45,000 officers are African-American."

"March 28, 1949: The three service secretaries testify before the Fahy Committee. Secretary of the Air Force Stuart Symington and Secretary of the Navy John L. Sullivan both testify that they are opposed to segregation and are pursuing policies to integrate their services. Secretary of the Army Kenneth Royall argues in favor of maintaining segregation, saying that the Army "was not an instrument for social evolution."

- The Truman Library Timeline of Military Desegregation
http://www.trumanlibrary.org/whistlestop/study_collections/desegregation/large/index.php?action=chronology

"We're saying, 'We're shoving this down your throat,'" said Rep. Louie Gohmert, Texas Republican. "The military is not a social experiment. We are sending them out there with a mission to protect this country."
- Anne Flaherty, Associated Press "Congress to Vote on Military Gay Ban" http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/may/27/congress-vote-military-gay-ban/

My father served in the armed forces in World War II as a naval aviator in the Pacific. One of the places I remember quite vividly that I was taken as a child, decades later during a family vacation was the Harry S. Truman Library and Museum, one of the Presidential Libraries. My father spoke admiringly of Truman, "even if he was a Democrat". The parental admiration was earned for his conduct as Commander in Chief during the war, not for his desegregation of the armed forces.

I happen to believe Truman was a remarkable president for both reasons.

But when I read some of the statements, such as that of Congressman Gohmert quoted above, something about the phrase "social experiment" in his comment rang a bell. The place I went to look for the earlier similar wording was the Truman Library (online this time) that I remembered from my childhood.

In hindsight, from the vantage of the early days of the 21st century, it would be a rare person who sees the desegregation of our military as a radical exercise in "social evolution". Now we would simply see it as fair, as reasonable, so logical that the earlier status quo seems a bit ridiculous, foolish.

Word for word, argument for argument, I am struck by the similarity of the objections against allowing people to serve, to risk their lives and limbs, to protect this country and its citizens, without regard to their sexuality.

It is not new, gays serving in armed forces. This is not really an 'experiment'; it has been done successfully elsewhere, repeatedly. It is the norm in the armed forces of our allies.

When I was a small child, travelling on winter vacations with my parents, I saw the last holdouts of the "whites only" and "coloreds only" water fountains in small southern towns - mostly poor rural places. On one occasion, the "whites only" fountain was out of order, so as a stubbornly independent kid, I simply drank out of the other water fountain, to my parents' dismay. They didn't actually care which fountain I drank out of, they were simply concerned that I would offend the local populace.

Instead of being meekly rebuked, I crossed my arms (always a harbinger of my stubbornness rising) and declared the segregated system "just dumb". I further quite adamantly expressed my opinion that the local population would be better served by getting one good working drinking fountain, instead of having one crummy one and one that didn't work at all.

My parents tried to hush me, but I was not a hushable child, any more than I tend to be a 'hushable' adult. ( I fear my co-admins may have just choked on their beverage of choice at their respective computers.)

I proceeded to pose what seemed to me to be a logical question, didn't we all drink out of just one fountain without any problems? My mother agreed that was probably true. I pointed out that unless we actually saw who drank out of a fountain before we did, we wouldn't even know if it was another white person or not. My mother agreed this was true. So, I pointed out that it didn't really matter who drank out of a fountain, because it didn't make any practical difference, so it was just DUMB. "Just dumb" was my chronic and persistent protest of all adult illogic.

My parents gave up the hushing battle and simply picked me up bodily, threw me into the back of the family car, and hurriedly drove away to avoid an incident. My parents tried to explain how people felt, that it wasn't about logic.

I held to my conclusion that segregation was just dumb; not, I regret to say, for the inequality of it - I didn't really understand that part of it until later. I objected to the redundancy, the impracticality of it, in the face of poverty.

I find that as an adult looking at the current policy of our government towards gays in the military, I feel similarly that the policy of prohibiting people from serving because of their sexuality is "just dumb". We have always had men - and women - serving in our armed forces who were not heterosexual. Eisenhower had a notable experience in World War II in the European theater with having to relent to allow lesbians in the military, for example.

We have veterans of our current wars who have served with distinction, including people who have been honored for their courage in combat. We have graduated officers from the various service academies who have gone on to lead our armed forces in combat, without any more consequence resulting than that from shared desegregated drinking fountains.

Which does not alter the feelings of those who object. Minnesota has experienced the homophobic murder and beatings of gays in our history. We have right now so-called ministries and politicians, and their respective supporters, who contribute to that homophobia by claiming that muslims have the right idea in executing gays, who claim that the muslim and 'judeo-christian' faiths correctly label homosexuality an abomination. Perhaps the most egregious claim is that all homosexuals are child molesters, that homosexuals "molest 117 individuals" before being "found out". This is a factually inaccurate claim that is calculated to create fear and hatred. You can see a video of it here: www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOYF2Og1nMI

I have read comments from a devout catholic commenter who sincerely believes that the crisis in the Roman Catholic church is clear evidence that homosexuals are child molesters, because the priests who abused children "buggered little boys" more often than they abused girls, according to the statistics of the church.

Never mind the illogic of the reasoning, it is not about reason.

They claim to be upholding moral values; it is not about moral values. Values are the excuse, the justification, the attempt to defend the indefensible.

They don't want to hear facts or reason any more than those southern whites who believed in the necessity, the importance, the sacred tradition of segregation.

In every case fear will be the weapon of bigotry, whether it be the fear that blacks are criminals and that black men are just dying to rape white women, or the fear that homosexuals are all sexual predators and child molesters who want "to bugger little boys".

Predictably, religion will be dragged out to justify the bigotry that is too weak to prevail, to persuade, by fear alone. Dire predictions of divine retribution are the hallmarks of the worst of the religious zealots who try to preserve and extend the bigotry.

Predictably patriotism and fears for our security will be dragged out, claims that our military will fall apart if we do this. Similar arguments were made against desegregating the armed forces. It is an old, tattered, predictable fear tactic, not a valid argument.

In every case where fear fails to stop, the bigots will resist by trying to slow the progress, wailing that those who would act justly are forcing this evil thing on them. Just as predictably, those who come later will look back with the 20/20 vision of history and with clear hindsight, view the discrimination against gays as equally incomprehensible.

I have learned the adult lessons of diplomacy, that it is not useful to one's position to insult those who think differently by helpfully pointing out their position is 'just DUMB" even if the intent is only to be logical, to reason, not to be demeaning.

There is no more point in expecting logic to prevail in this instance. Some change will come through persuasion, but the majority of real change will come because, like Truman, those who can make the change find the strength to act. It is unrealistic to expect that we will have complete consensus so long as we have elected officials like the gormless Republican Rep. Gohmert of Texas, or Congresswoman Michele Bachmann of Minnesota, a supporter of the man who is in the video ranting against gays and who shares his view.

It is unrealistic to expect that logic or persuasion will prevail over bigotry. The opposition of those who are so very wrong hurts our fellow citizens through this kind of discrimination, denies them dignity and honor, denies them careers, and denies us the valuable service of their courage, and skills. It is foolish for us to indulge the bigots any longer or to let this decision be dictated by the lowest denominator instead of the highest.

History shows us there will always be opposition. There are and will continue to be segments of the armed forces that are virulently homophobic. That opposition will exist between now and the conclusion date for the study; it will exist during the 60 days after the study is completed (presuming the study affirms the position of the majority of the military leadership as currently expressed).

History teaches us that like the changing attitudes towards desegregation and race, the only thing which will succeed is to steel ourselves to take the plunge. George Santayana said that those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Peter Allen came up with the song and lyrics "everything old is new again". An anonymous author perhaps was the wisest when he - or she - came up with the saying "''Each time history repeats itself, the price goes up."

It is time to learn the lessons of history. Again. And to pay that price, whatever it will be.

14 comments:

  1. What I would really like to see is someone talking to the people at the rank of Sergeant and below and seeing what they think. It really does not matter what some Congressman or General in DC who has not seen combat in 20 yrs thinks, how do the guys that will be affected by it feel? I know the people against it says it will hurt unit integrity, some soldiers are uncomfortable sleeping in close quarters with someone who might be sexually attracted to them, and that is understandable. There have been some problems with women in combat zones for the same reason. However I bet it would be the same as when units were desegragated and blacks served next to whites, once the bullets start flying no one gives a damn about your race, religion, or sexual preference as long as you are doing your job and helping them stay alive. I would think the very effeminate, flamboyant gays would have a hard time fitting in but I doubt they would want to join anyway.

    As far as the thing about the Catholic church, I read a book by George Wiegel about the whole scandal. Yes the molestation going on was about 87% male on male, but the problem was not just that the church allowed homosexuals in the seminary. He said there were plenty of homosexual priests who were just as celibate and faithful as the heterosexual priests. The problem was the seminaries, in trying to be politically correct, were allowing very promiscuous homosexuals in. If a man came to the seminary and bragged about bedding 2-3 different women every week they would counsel him that maybe he isn't ready for the priesthood and celibacy, but for some reason they just overlooked this when it was a gay man.

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  2. No commentary from me; just kudos for a fine post.

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  3. I think you are still missing the point here Tom. First, I'm not aware of the Roman Catholic church knowingly accepting gay priests, but I suppose it is possible that a priest would recognize his true sexual orientation after ordination.

    I would hope that a church which requires celibacy from its priests would counsel anyone who is sexually active to question their calling, given the church's position on any sex outside of marriage. I think the Episcopalian/Anglican church's position on celibacy is far more reasonable and more consistent with the Bible's teachings as well.

    But there isn't any faith that is free of problems with their clergy and sexual misconduct. The greater fault in that conduct is not just the improper sex, it is the abuse of power and the abuse of trust.

    Sex with children is the ultimate abuse of power and abuse of trust, it is about an abnormal desire based on vulnerability and lack of power, not on gender orientation. The victim is as much or more selected because of availability and vulnerabilty, not because the priest is homosexual. There are nearly as many instances of heterosexual molestation in the Roman Catholic church, 40% girls compared to 60% boys.

    The problem is not one of sexual orientation, the problem is not one of sexual activity. The bigger problem with the past history of sexual abuse is that the church has not understood the problem, in some instances not recognizing the harm it did ("it's just sex") and in some cases wrongly believing it could be too easily cured, and in some cases just shuffling priests from one jurisdiction to another, avoiding cooperation with prosecution and discovery, ignoring that it was recurring.

    This has absolutely NOTHING whatsoever to do with the military and gays; it is a false equivalent.

    There have been numerous gays in the military serving without any degree of difficulty to their unit, with distinction in combat, and not in combat. While there are some homophobes, certainly, just as there were racists, the only question is will we allow their prejudice to regulate our armed forces.

    I would point out that in order to meet the requirements of a volunteer army, we have raised the age of new recruits we accept, we have lowered the academic standards, and we have started accepting recruits with criminal records - including felonies. We have increased dramatically the number of tours.

    The real question, is our military better with illiterates and criminals, than with gays? Is our military better or worse with this kind of exhaustion than with gays?

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  4. Tuck - this was an interesting article from today's New York Times that addresses the issue of homosexuality among Roman Catholic priests and the seminary screening process:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/31/nyregion/31gay.html?pagewanted=2&ref=general&src=me

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  5. This isn't an issue of child molestation. This isn't an issue of homosexuality. This is an issue of fundamental fairness and one of national security.

    The US Military has, in keeping with its following of a homophobic law, removed from service specialists that they desperately need, including Arabic interpreters/intelligence officers, medical officers, and specialists in many different fields. No other company in the US today would have such a counterproductive or homophobic policy, except that the US Military, a champion of US freedom, is required to do so by a misguided law.

    This law needs to be repealed forthwith, and consigned to the dust bins of history

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  6. As a former Sergeant, I don't feel this policy is wise (at all) to continue.

    When I joined the Army in 1985, there was a widely held belief that homosexuality was a form of mental illness. That clearly is no longer the belief (nor is it supportable by clinical evaluation or any form of medical testing).

    There certainly are those among us who will continue to hate and be fearful of homosexuality, but the time to put an end to this travesty is at an end. The military has relaxed standards for entrance, relaxed its physical and mental standards - so the argument that this creates a less ready force is a farce, clearly there may be resentments, but we've allowed so many other 'comprimises' in the force, claiming we need to 'protect' the force and its fighting ability from this kind of frustration/tension is the height of hypocrisy. Our fighting services have been comprimised beyond reason simply to keep recruitment numbers up, keeping soldiers who in all cases have proven their ability to do the job, pass the tests, and carry the load seems ludicrous.

    The sexual tension nature of this issue already exists, there are already integrated ships, integrated barracks and integrated bases. Clearly we may have troops sleeping in the same foxholes, same billeting areas, but how is that different than a female soldier in a transportation company who is sleeping in the same camp area (meaning 1000 square yard area) as her rater, as her driver?

    The insecurities and sensitivities of soldiers who can't handle having someone who is gay in the same unit are, imho, again the height of hypocrisy to be much concerned about. Where were the concerns for those soldiers who were drummed out, or their friends who saw them as fine members of the military? Where ARE the concerns for members of the military who have the same tensions and issues today? We have improper fraternization today, we have standards of conduct and rules about sexual harrassment which are MUCH more severe and specific (in the military) than in civilian life. Let those work, and let's move past this rather barbaric chapter in our history.

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  7. Maybe you guys, and gal, misunderstood when I said I would like to see the opinion of soldiers the rank of Sgt and below. Most of the Pentagon soldiers are my age and older. When I was in high school there were no openly gay people in high school. In college there were very few. That was 30 yrs ago. Today most of the people joining right after high school or college probably had at least a couple openly gay friends and saw several more around school. I would be willing to bet the top brass in Washington would be surprised at how little the people this would really affect care about the sexual orientation of the person sitting next to them.

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  8. At DG's request, I viewed an extremely offensive youtube clip that contained information from a "Christian" claiming that the bible demands that we execute homosexuals. He is referring to a passage, Leviticus 20:13, which states "If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads." However, here is the part that they conveniently forget. Christ established a new covenant with His people, paid for by His blood. "In the same way, after supper, He took the cup, saying 'This is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you'" Luke 22:20

    Paul explained it as well, in his Letter to the Hebrews. "By calling this covenant 'new,' he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear." Hebrews 8:13.

    The point is that the Christian faith is not a faith of hate. It is a faith of love. From the endless love that God had for the earth as described in John 3:16, to the love that Christ had for all of us, that He gave His life to save us from our sins. This is the message that Christianity gives us, and those who preach a message of hate should be exposed for the heretics that they are.

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  9. Thank you Tuck, ToE.

    I believe Tuck that the review by the armed forces that is part of the repeal legislation for Don't Ask Don't Tell will address that question of generational differences in attitude to homosexuality.

    But the video that i asked ToE to address is of a ministry that specializes in preaching to high school students, in an attempt to reverse that trend away from homophobia. It doesn't and shouldn't really matter if this poll shows a mix of attitudes or even strong resistance.

    That existed in parts of the military in reaction to desegregating our armed forces as well.

    1. It's the right thing to do.
    2. We need these skilled, brave people to be safe.
    3. We have a section of Article I that addresses the sexual conduct of our military which is sufficient to deal with sexual issues.
    4. ......See 1 and 2

    The military - as ToE and Pen are better able to speak to - is not an organization where the personnel vote on what they do and don't feel like doing.

    I think it is an intelligent decision to see where attitudes are in the military rather than guessing. But I don't think it is a decision on which the military should get to decide by the equivalent of a show of hands on this decision, any more than it was decided by a polling of opinion under Truman.

    I would encourage readers to follow the link to the timeline of desegregation, from the Truman Library. It is fairly short, and it is eye-opening.

    I just saw something recently on TCM about the making of the 1955 movie, The Blackboard Jungle. One of the people in the movie was talking about Sidney Poitier, and how he could not stay in the same hotel with the other actors. He had to stay in a hotel something like 30 miles away, because of attitudes about race, and secondary to that, attitudes about business and property rights. Some conservatives and libertarians i know agree with Rand Paul that we should go back to allowing discrimination, that property rights are more important than human rights.

    I'm sure some people will also point out that in their opinion this is a Christian nation, and that we are forcing our military personnel to go against god, and therefore we cannot allow homosexuality in the armed forces. Those who opposed desegregation, like the conservative Wm. F. Buckley, were convinced at the time, that white had established themselves as the dominant culture and superior race, and that as such whites should not have to associate with blacks, sharing barracks, showers, mess halls, etc. That was upholding the right of freedom of association. Don't even get me started on how miscegenation laws were justified.

    They were wrong. They ARE wrong.

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  10. As a current Sergeant (E-6), I don't have a problem with 95% of what will happen if DADT is repealed. It is the 5% of extreme cases that will cause trouble.

    First, sex in a combat zone is a serious problem. Officially, it is not allowed, yet every PX in Iraq still stocks plenty of condoms. Romantic relationships, or even just lustful ones, distract soldiers from what they are supposed to be doing.

    Second, gays are allowed to serve right now, and that fact is always overlooked. DADT is vilified by those who oppose it, but it actually should be looked at as a huge improvement over the all out ban that was in place previously.

    Third, sexual preference may not matter when the bullets fly, true enough. But we spend weeks in training for every minute spent in actual combat, which means sexual preference will still be a problem. When people talk about women serving in combat units, I always use the tick check example; when my infantry unit trains in the woods of Camp Ripley or Fort McCoy, full body tick checks are mandatory twice a day. I'm not trying to be graphic or salacious, but full body means exactly that-the areas of your body that you can't see are the areas your buddy needs to check for you.

    Co-ed tick checks are a situation the Army can avoid for now because while women may serve in combat roles in the combat zone, they don't generally train in combat roles. But the same would not be true in the case of DADT.

    And lastly, let's remember our history here. It took almost a century after slavery was outlawed until the integration of blacks into the military, and another three decades after that before racial tensions in the military were reduced to being on par with the country as a whole.

    DADT has been official policy for less than two decades. Social change may be inevitable, but it is rarely ever fast.

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  11. Dave, welcome to Penigma and thank you for commenting.

    May I take it that if you do not object to 95% of what will take place, that you support the repeal? I don't want to make an assumption; better to ask than to misunderstand.

    In effect, what I am asking is if you consider the 5% of the extreme cases to be a serious problem, or do you consider these 5% to be something the military can resolve, given time and the determination to do it?

    You mentioned in your second point that 'gays are allowed to serve right now'. It was my understanding that gays are not allowed to serve after it becomes known they are gay, and that many - perhaps most - of the gays now being separated from the service did not make that information known voluntarily. If someone else - even a civilian - can 'out' you in the military, ruining your career if you had intended the military to be your career....is that really "allowing" gays to serve?

    I think your third point was a very practical one, but I don't really see that it is a situation any different than the group showers one has to endure in phy ed classes in the upper levels of k-12 or college. As a woman, I've showered in the same gym facilities as other women, some of whom I know were lesbian, others who could for all I know be lesbian or bisexual. It was never a problem.

    Your tick check example was apt, LOL - I just did the morning dog tick check, and had to pull a couple off of myself afterwards (damn things). I have gone camping with a mixed group of people, and while nudity in many situations is uncomfortable, especially with people you don't know well, be it changing in a tent into bathing suits or ....asking someone to help with a tick check, it IS possible for adults to behave as adults and control their impulses.

    Essentially, that would seem to be the bottom line of this issue. Control your impulses, behave as an adult, or the military will penalize, or even in worst cases, separate you for failing to do so, regardless of your gender or sexual orientation.

    That means accepting that when you have healthy people, especially during their sexual prime, there may be issues, but we have to deal with whatever those issues may be.

    With the military accepting convicted criminals to meet the manpower needs, I have to wonder which is the greater or at least more frequent concern - the integrity of those serving with our soldiers or their sexuality?

    As someone facing those issues on an actual, less theoretical basis, I hope you will comment further.

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  12. SSG Thul,

    It is true change is slow, but generally on points of integration and protections against harrassment, the service has lead the rest of the nation, not the other way around. The service, as you may well know, took aggressive steps in the early 90's to address sexual harrassment, equally, when other elements of the country opposed integretion, the service began integrating in WWII, and even more assertively shortly after WWII.

    Sex in the foxholes/combat zones is a problem, but it's a problem no less for male/female relationships than it is for potential same sex relationsihps. Further, it's strictly prohibited from senior to junior service member (yet happens). Regardless of the fact it happens, the senior member is expected to do their jobs and order the junior member into harm's way if necessary to accomplish the mission. If relationships are going to cause issues, then the Amry (and the rest of the services) have MUCH larger issues than same-sex relationships will introduce now, and has had those problems (and apparently successfully dealt with them). I think they can handle this problem just fine.

    Also, I have the same question as DG did, though to clarify, I don't expect you to take a political position while in uniform as doing so would be innapropriate, so, outside your uniform, do you support doing away with DADT now? Do you agree this should be relegated to the dustbin?

    SGT (E5) Bryant (Penigma)

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  13. Dave, Pen and ToE were kind enough to explain to me about the military rules relating to politics while in uniform. It was not my intent to put you on the spot if it is inappropriate for you to say more than you have.

    If I may inject a tiny note of levity, I'm also presuming it was not Pen's intent for you to strip down to reply either, LOL. (Sorry, given your excellent tick check analogy, I couldn't resist.)

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  14. I think the key here, as far as problems go, would be the individual. Someone whose life revolves around there sexual conquests and how often they have sex is going to be a problem whether they are straight or gay. Now if they are straight once out in the field in combat they are unlikely to be alone around women as much so there is less of a problem. I could see where a gay man would still be a problem, but like I said that would be more a problem with their outlook on sex rather than a straight or gay problem.

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