Showing posts with label ALEC and the NRA special interest secretly drafted legislation. Show all posts
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Monday, August 27, 2012

For those who don't know the NRA very well

There is a huge chasm (not a mere gap) between the NRA past and the NRA present; likewise, there is a huge chasm between the NRA politically, and the rest of the country, both gun owners and non-gun owners.

For those who are shockingly unfamiliar with the NRA history, allow me to educate you, since once again I demonstrably have a better grasp of facts than the right wingers do.

I am cross-posting this from the website Sane Guns, because I couldn't write a better brief history:

The Gun Lobby
The National Rifle Association

















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The National Rifle Association is the most vocal and most recognized component of the "Gun Lobby." Today, it is best known outside of the shooting community as the most powerful advocate of a broad (and almost limitless) individual "right" to firearms ownership. But the NRA is 123 years old and has gone thru three major eras in its history -- it wasn't always the obstructionist force it is today. History of the NRA The Early Years
    The first century of the NRA's history (from it's incorporation in 1871 to the "Cincinnati Revolt" of 1977) was directed towards promoting shooting sports -- first marksmanship and then (following WW II) hunting. The organization maintained close ties with those governments which could support it and, in fact, relied on feeding at the public trough for its survival -- in both direct financial support and legislated favoritism that drove off all competition.
The New NRA
    The NRA claims to be far more than just a lobbying organization. It portrays itself as maintaining a serious interest in the shooting sports and in gun safety. In fact, it is still the national overseeing body for target competitions and does provide training in safe gun handling and promotes the Eddie The Eagle program for children. But the primary thrust of the NRA is no longer in the shooting sports or in safety. It is in carrying Harlan Carter's legacy of no gun laws.
The Ultimate Lobbying Machine
    When Harlon Carter took over the reins of the NRA in the "Cincinnati Revolt" of 1977 and announced that "Beginning in this place and at this hour, this period in NRA history is finished," he was serious. No longer would the NRA's primary goal be to serve the sportsman. Now it was to intimidate those who had the temerity to challenge it.
Bashing the Cops
    In the early years, the NRA and law enforcement were the best of friends. A shared interest in firearms, coupled with the NRA's training programs in marksmanship and safety forged strong bonds between the two groups. But the "New NRA" destroyed those bonds when Harlan Carter's absolutist opposition to gun laws ran into the police officers' campaign for bans on cop-killer bullets, plastic guns and assault weapons. The NRA's response was an all-out attack on the police leadership -- from the chiefs to the head of the rank-and-file's Fraternal Order of Police.
     

Sunday, August 5, 2012

The NRA Is Out of Touch, and Simply Wrong

Changes to make our gun laws more sane and reasonable are more popular than the right wing extremists, including the NRA, would like people to know - including legislators.
A few examples from polls:
 - 86 percent support requiring all gun buyers to pass a criminal background check, no matter where they purchase the weapon or from whom they buy it. (January 2011 American ViewPoint/Momentum Analysis poll)
 - 63 percent favor a ban on high capacity magazines or clips (January 2011 CBS News Poll)
 - 69 percent support "limiting the number of guns a person could purchase in a given time frame." (April 2012 Ipsos/Reuters poll)
 - 66 percent support requiring gun owners to register their firearms as part of a national gun registry. (January 2011 American ViewPoint/Momentum Analysis)
 - 88 percent support banning those on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. (January 2011 American ViewPoint/Momentum Analysis poll)

We've had the right pushing paranoid gun nuts to buy more guns, more ammunition, because of a specious claim that 'Obama is coming for yer gunz' from the NRA and other crazies.  The NRA back in '77/'78 was taken over by pro-gun extremists, who were also extremist right wing politically.  That changed the NRA from being an organization that supported gun control and regulation to what we have now.  They began funding, in part the shift to the far right among conservatives where there previously had been normal moderate conservatives.

And of course we had the drastic dumping of the mentally ill pretty much on the street during the Reagan era.  While it was never a good idea to warehouse the mentally ill, state and local resources were not prepared to deal with the problem which simply put many mentally ill out on the street.  Others, while not on the street, have faced increasingly less and less in the way of any resources to deal with mental illness.
Part of that takeover, that shift to the far right, away from normal moderates, included steady, consistent, extreme reduction in the funding for mental health care.  In places like Seattle, Washington, where there has been a sharp increase in shootings, including mass shootings, the difficulty in trying to get care, especially involuntary commitments for the severely mentally ill has been noted as a factor in those shooting incidents.

The right would rather give the wealthy tax breaks and provide corporate welfare to their donors.  It is a bad priority, for all those who are not dangerous but need care; it is a dangerous priority for all of us when those who are dangerously mentally ill don't get care, but do get guns.

Pro-gun advocates would insist that this man, who clearly was a danger to himself and others, should not have been denied the purchase of a firearm, because his run-ins with law enforcement were dismissed. They rabidly deny law enforcement the option to keep people safe by denying dangerous people firearms.

Former press secretary Gibbs is wrong, in speaking here in January 2011 about the Gabby Giffords mass shooting incident; the right wing extremists DO pursue a position that make it possible, even EASY, for deranged minds to acquire firearms IS what they claim under cover of 2nd Amendment rights.
Any attempt to screen out people like Jared Loughner is resisted; any attempt to regulate what kinds of firearms are available, like the assault style weapon or the body armor accessories or the drum magazine that held 100 rounds that made it possible to shoot so many, many people in a short period of time, and which would have done terrible harm to law enforcement even with body armor is resisted; any attempt to regulate the amount of weapons and ammunition that has characterized not only mass shootings, but also domestic terrorism like that of the right wing extremist militias is resisted as well.
Ordinary citizens who want to enjoy firears for recreation, or for home defense, or for hunting do not require those items used by James Holmes or the quantity acquired by him. Ordinary citizens would prefer to see people like Jared Loughner, or the man who shot up the cafe in Seattle denied firearms, and to see drug users not have access to firearms, or former felons either, given the incidence of them using those firearms for subsequent violence.
We need to adequately fund mental health care, including screening and where necessary, involuntary commitment. Thankfully, the ACA is a step in the right direction in making mental health care one of the many kinds of health care that will be more accessible to people who need it. That in turn will facilitate having dangerous people diagnosed. I would also argue that we would benefit from having a thorough overhaul of the terrorist watch list, to remove the people who should not be on it; but those who remain should be considered on a case by case basis for firearm ownership, so as to remove those who present a danger from firearms. But you can bet that the right, and the NRA, will spend a fortune to obstruct any measures which would reduce our incidence of gun violence. They make too much money from it.

Thursday, March 22, 2012

Police Chief in Trayvon Martin case steps down - temporarily

This was overdue. The announcement was made here by MSNBC.com:

Police chief steps down temporarily over handling of Trayvon Martin case

Bill Lee, chief of police in Sanford, Florida, announces that he will be temporarily stepping down from his position as the investigation into the shooting death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin is conducted.

By NBC News and msnbc.com staff
Sanford Police Chief Bill Lee Jr. said Thursday that he would temporarily step down from his position over how the Trayvon Martin shooting case was handled.

On Wednesday, the Sanford City Commission voted 3-2 that it had no confidence in Lee over how the case has been handled.
Velma Williams, the city’s only black commissioner, said she spent 15 years trying to bring together the black community and white community, and the Martin episode has taken an emotional toll. “And now this. It’s a national embarrassment," she said.


Commissioners Patty Mahany and Randy Jones supported the police chief, who came on the job last May.
"I would not want to see someone tried in the court of public opinion without all the facts," Jones said.
Mayor Jeff Triplett sounded a similar theme, though he voted against Lee. "We only have a very small piece of the puzzle right now," he said.
Commissioners cannot fire Lee, as he reports to City Manager Norton Bonaparte Jr.
Amid growing outrage over Trayvon Martin, Sanford's city council passed a vote of no confidence in Police Chief Bill Lee for his handling of the murder investigation. MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell asks Sandford city manager Norton Bonaparte if he plans to fire him. Plus, MSNBC's Al Sharpton weighs in.
Williams implied that if Bonaparte doesn't fire Lee, she would review his contract the next time it comes up for renewal.
More from NBCMiami.com on the no-confidence vote
She nearly fainted after the vote because she became so emotional, and had to be treated by a paramedic.
Residents then took to the podium to say their piece.
The Sanford City Commission passed a vote of "no confidence" in police Chief Bill Lee Wednesday night over his handling of the Trayvon Martin shooting. Meanwhile, hundreds of demonstrators assembled a "Million Hoodie March" in New York City to call for the arrest of Martin's killer. NBC's Lilia Luciano reports.

The New York Times (and other reports) on the Larger Violent Pattern :
Unarmed Shooting Victims of
Stand Your Ground Law in Florida
This pattern IS exactly what the NRA and ALEC intended

We have seen the legislator who was responsible for the Florida Stand Your Ground - more properly termed Shoot First or Make My Day legislation - claim that the law was never intended for gun carrying civilians to instigate conflicts.
I would argue that it has always been the intent of the authors - the NRA and ALEC, not the legislator - to function exactly as it has.  It has functioned to protect shooters similar to Zimmerman, but those cases haven't drawn the attention that the Trayvon Martin case has; THAT is the only significant difference.  The law has consistently protected the shooter of unarmed individuals, especially black teens, who were not doing anything wrong, and who were the party being threatened, not threatening anyone.
It is only the uncomfortable massive national pushback that is causing any consideration of change, and even then, not much.  Baxley is wrong when he says that his legislation wouldn't protect Zimmerman; it has protected people who decide to execute others and claim self-defense without the kind of threat that was previously required to justify deadly force.  It has happened over and over and over again in Florida, and it has happened repeatedly as the norm not the exception in every other state that has similar cookie-cutter NRA/ALEC drafted legislation like Florida's.  To claim otherwise appears either ignorant or dishonest, or both on the part of Baxley.  Trayvon Martin's shooting is only the most recent in a long list of similar violent acts.  The responsibility lies squarely at Baxley's doorstep, and squarely at the doorstep of ALEC and the NRA.  There are fundamental problems with the legislation that can only be remedied by repeal, and by other states repealing it where it exists, and by rejecting it where it does not currently exist.
From CBS News:
CBS News correspondent Jeff Glor reports the law at the center of the shooting was co-sponsored in 2005 by State Representative Dennis Baxley. The legislator says he doesn't have any regrets about creating the law.

"I think it's been a great protection for our people," Baxley said.
The intent of the law was to expand the right to claim self defense beyond the home. It allows a person to "stand his or her ground and meet force with force," "including deadly force" if there's a reasonable belief it's needed to "prevent death or great bodily harm," even if there's a chance to escape.
"We thought the self defense measures that we were talking about really should apply to any law abiding citizen who was doing nothing to harm anyone else," Baxley said.

From Slate, on how the law has functioned prior to Trayvon Martin to allow innocent people to be murdered, and for the killers consistently to get away with their crimes.

Why Trayvon Martin’s Killer Remains Free

Florida’s self-defense laws have left Florida safe for no one—except those who shoot first.


Trayvon Martin

Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in a gated community in Sanford, Fla., by George Zimmerman. Zimmerman has not been charged.
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The story of Trayvon Martin’s death is heartbreaking. If you have missed the facts: The 17-year-old, who is black, was walking to a friend’s home in a gated community in Sanford, Fla., when a neighborhood-watch volunteer*, 28-year-old George Zimmerman, spotted him. Zimmerman, whose father says identifies as Hispanic, called the cops to report a suspicious person. They told him not to follow. “They always get away,” Zimmerman told dispatch in a 911 call released Friday, and he kept tracking Martin. Zimmerman had a gun. Martin was carrying only an ice tea and the Skittles he’d just bought at the store. The two had a struggle that no one saw. Hearing shots, neighbors called 911. In one call that’s hard to listen to, a woman anxiously says she can hear someone calling for help while in the background, a terrified, wailing voice pleads, "No! No!"
Zimmerman shot and killed Martin, but he said he did so in self-defense. The shocker of this case so far is that the Sanford police say they don’t have enough evidence to dispute Zimmerman’s claim and arrest him. Martin’s mother told the Today show Monday morning that her son was killed “because of the color of his skin,” and his parents want the FBI to investigate. With these facts, you can see why. UPDATE, March 20, 2012: On Monday evening, the Justice Department announced it will investigate Martin's killing.
How did we get to a place where Zimmerman’s claim of self-defense, which seems barely plausible, could prevent his arrest? The answer starts with the “Stand Your Ground” law that Florida passed in 2005. The idea was to give people who think they are being threatened the right to use force: They can protect themselves without first trying to retreat. The history behind that controversial idea is actually about gender, not race. It involves the intersection between the fight against domestic violence and the agenda of the National Rifle Association.
Let’s back up, with the help of Jeannie Suk, a Harvard law professor who wrote an article in 2008 that I’ll rely on for the next few paragraphs. In the 17th century, English common law held that people whose lives were threatened in a public place could use deadly force to defend themselves only after retreating as far as possible. It was up to the king and his men to keep the peace, and everyone else was supposed to stand aside. There was only one exception: If someone broke into your house, you could kill him without retreating.
Suk says, some courts expanded it. Now someone under attack could "repel force by force" if he was attacked "in a place where he has a right to be." That’s how the Supreme Court put it in 1895. This is amazingly called the “true man” doctrine, from a line in an 1876 case: “A true man, who is without fault, is not obliged to fly from an assailant, who by violence or surprise, maliciously seeks to take his life or do him enormous bodily harm.”

Not all the states adopted the true man doctrine. And 100 years later, courts and legislatures faced a new problem: What to do with women who said they were victims of domestic violence and had killed their husbands to save themselves? Did you have a right not to retreat if the person coming after you lived under the same roof? At first, the answer was no, to the fury of feminists. Then in 1999, the Florida Supreme Court said a woman who shot and killed her husband during a violent fight at home could successfully call on the Castle Doctrine to argue self-defense. “It is now widely recognized that domestic violence attacks are often repeated over time, and escape from the home is rarely possible without the threat of great personal violence or death,” the court wrote.
Suk calls this revision of the true-man rule to encompass domestic violence transformative, and you can see why. The new rules made for more shooting and less retreating. And they set the stage for Florida to ditch the duty to retreat entirely, which the legislature did in passing the nation’s first Stand Your Ground law in 2005.
Florida’s new law did three things: It further loosened the restrictions on using deadly force at home. It scrapped the duty to retreat in public places. And it gave people who use self-defense civil and criminal immunity. Pushing for these changes, NRA President Marion Hammer focused on women and their need to protect themselves. “You can’t expect a victim to wait and ask, ‘Excuse me, Mr. Criminal, are you going to rape me and kill me, or are you just going to beat me up and steal my television?” she said.
Prosecutors opposed the Stand Your Ground law, and they still complain about it. "It is an abomination," former Broward County Prosecutor David Frankel told the Sun Sentinel in January. "The ultimate intent might be good, but in practice, people take the opportunity to shoot first and say later they had a justification. It almost gives them a free pass to shoot." The quote comes from a story about a former sheriff’s deputy, Maury Hernandez, who killed an unarmed homeless man in a Haagen-Dazs shop on a Saturday afternoon. Hernandez, who was with his children, said the man aggressively asked for money and then tried to assault him. Witnesses said Hernandez warned the man several times before taking out his gun and firing multiple times. The police said they wouldn’t charge Hernandez for the shooting because he claimed he was under attack.
It’s that decision not to press charges that makes Stand Your Ground laws, which a bunch of other states have adopted, a crazy departure from the past. It’s one thing to raise self-defense at trial. It’s another to have what the Florida Supreme Court calls “true immunity.” True immunity, the court said, means a trial judge can dismiss a prosecution, based on a Stand Your Ground assertion, before trial begins.
At least there’s supposed to be a hearing before that happens, at which the defendant has the burden of proof. And yet as the Hernandez and Martin’s case shows, Stand Your Ground laws often lead prosecutors to decide against so much as bringing charges. According to the Sun Sentinel, “In case after case during the past six years, Floridians who shot and killed unarmed opponents have not been prosecuted.”
Now the death of Trayvon Martin is the latest in that line. Maybe this is the kind of case that is so sad and so tinged with racism that Florida will think hard about the very scary place where their self-defense laws have taken them. Maybe.
*Correction, March 20, 2012: This article originally stated that George Zimmerman is white, but his father says he identifies as Hispanic.
From the New York Times:

Trevor Dooley testified last month that he killed a man in self-defense, invoking Florida’s so-called Stand Your Ground law.
Trevor Dooley stood his ground, brandished his gun and killed a man after an argument over local skateboarding rules in a Florida town.
He argued in court last month that he had a right to do so under the state’s Stand Your Ground law.
Outrage over the death of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, killed by a crime watch volunteer, has focused new attention on the law, which permits those in Florida “to meet force with force, including deadly force” when attacked. As my colleague Lizette Alvarez reports, the Justice Department is pursuing an investigation into Trayvon’s case.
As that investigation goes forward, the law is currently being invoked as a key defense by Mr. Dooley.
The man he killed, David James, had been playing basketball with his 8-year-old daughter in September 2010 when he and Mr. Dooley began arguing over whether a boy on a skateboard had a right to ride on the court, according to an account in The St. Petersburg Times. There was a “physical confrontation,” the police said, during which Mr. Dooley fired the weapon he was carrying, killing Mr. James in front of his daughter.
“You agree you do not want to go to prison for killing David James?” he was asked at the trial, according to televised footage from the courtroom.
“I don’t think I should,” responded Mr. Dooley, who has been charged with manslaughter but says he feared for his life during the altercation with Mr. James.
His lawyers are seeking to have the case dismissed by a judge on the grounds that the Stand Your Ground law permitted him to defend himself with deadly force.
The law extends what has been called the Castle Doctrine — that a person has the right to defend his or her home with force — to apply to people outside of the home, removing the so-called “duty to retreat.” The Florida law explicitly states that no such duty exists in the state. The provision appears as part of the Florida law on the justifiable use of force by citizens.
A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.
The National Rifle Association lobbied strongly for the change to state law, which was adopted in 2005 and signed by Gov. Jeb Bush. Mr. Bush said at the time that he supported the measure because, faced with a serious threat one’s life, “to have to retreat and put yourself in a very precarious position defies common sense.”
In the years since the law was amended in 2005, there has been a surge in the number of cases like Mr. Dooley’s and that of Trayvon Martin, killed by the neighborhood volunteer, George Zimmerman, last month. A 2010 review by The St. Petersburg Times found that rates of justifiable homicide tripled since the law was passed and that “twice a week, on average, someone’s killing was considered warranted.”
The paper reviewed press accounts of 93 cases involving 65 deaths in confrontations in which the new law could be applied and found that 57 of them resulted in no criminal charge or trial. In seven others that went to trial, the defendants were then acquitted.
In these cases, the Florida Supreme Court recognizes something called “true immunity.” That means, according to Emily Bazelon in Slate, that the assertion of the Stand Your Ground law can be enough for a judge to dismiss a case before trial even starts.
A columnist writing in The Orlando Sentinel said the law made Florida feel “more and more like the Wild West.” But it is far from unique; more than a dozen states have similar Stand Your Ground provisions.
The Orlando Sentinel published a primer on the law last weekend, answering some frequently asked questions including:
Q: How did law enforcement respond to the law?
A: Prosecutors across the state opposed the law before it was enacted Oct. 1, 2005. In the following five months, there were at least 13 shootings in Central Florida where self-defense was claimed. Out of six men killed and four more wounded in the cases, only one was armed. Some Orlando-area police agencies simply stopped investigating shootings involving self-defense claims and referred them directly to state prosecutors to decide.
Q: Can an unarmed person legally pose a deadly threat?
In case after case during the past six years, Floridians who shot and killed unarmed opponents have not been prosecuted. Former National Rifle Association President Marion Hammer, a major force behind the law’s passage, cited her own size and age in 2006 interview with the Sentinel about what she would do if confronted by a younger and larger aggressor.
“I’m 4-foot-11. I’m 67 years old,” she said. “If you came at me, and I felt that my life was in danger or that I was going to be injured, I wouldn’t hesitate to shoot you.”
The law may explain why local police did not charge Mr. Zimmerman for killing Trayvon. But further details may cast doubt on the circumstances of their encounter and whether it would fall under the law’s provisions.
A female friend of Trayvon talked to him by cellphone moments before he died. “He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man,” the girl told ABC News. “I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run but he said he was not going to run.” A call to 911 by Mr. Zimmerman also appeared to indicate that he followed Trayvon.
Ta-Nehisi Coates wrote on his blog for The Atlantic magazine that “the more I see of this, the less I think ‘Stand Your Ground’ will save Zimmerman.”

If Coates is correct, it will only be because the law doesn't stand up well to the kind of scrutiny it is currently receiving.  The outrage is long past overdue.