Showing posts with label right wing lies fail factchecking. Show all posts
Showing posts with label right wing lies fail factchecking. Show all posts

Friday, March 14, 2014

Losing Their Heads? Or Just out of Their Minds?
(Update to an earlier story)

Raw Story reported a few days ago that now Rick Santorum has picked up the latest radical right wing / radical religious right claim about guillotines being employed, via Obamacare, to attack Christianity and/or to enforce Sharia law.

Looking at these stories, it is difficult not to diagnose Conservativism as a form of mental illness, a tragic break with reality, a form of delusional thinking deeply connected to the most emotional and primitive parts of the brain and to the most fundamental kinds of identity thought that precludes use of the rational parts of the brain.

So, let's review this - part of a story reported elsewhere, including here a few days ago.

Sources like Right Wing Watch and Addicting Info, among others, alerted me to this story, but until I came across this piece from Raw Story from a week ago, it had remained among the more peripheral of the fringe crazies among the radical right.  While it had moderate play among the more generally deluded conservatives, it seemed to be circulating much more with the radical religious right than the less religiously focused.

I have spent a little time digging into that, trying to find the source for this, but the Raw Story piece solidified my impression that this is a particular paranoia specific to the religious right subset of the mentally ill conservatives.  This load of steaming shit believed by conservatives and promoted by right wing propagandists started last November; here is where we are now.  (Following this is the - if you'll pardon my religious humor - the 'Genesis' of the lie involving guillotines, on which Santorum is building.)

From Raw Story:

Santorum: Obama leading Christians to the ‘guillotine’

By David Edwards
Thursday, February 9, 2012 10:37 EDT

Republican presidential candidate Rick Santorum warned on Wednesday that President Barack Obama and other liberals are leading people of faith down a path that ends at the guillotine.
During a campaign event in Plano, Texas, the candidate charged Obama had an “overt hostility to faith.”
“When you look and see what the left is trying to do in America today, progressives are trying to shutter faith, privatize it, push it out of the public square, oppress people of faith, strip their charitable deductions away from them, trying to weaken them, churches — trying to say that anyone who believes in the value of Judeo-Christian principles,” Santorum explained.
“As we saw in the Ninth Circuit just this week, that if you believe that [same sex marriage is wrong] — this is what the court said — that if believe that, if believe what’s taught in Genesis, if you believe what’s practiced Biblically and a generation since then you are irrational. The only possible reason you could believe this, according to the Ninth Circuit, is that you are a bigot and that you are a hater.”
He continued: “They are taking faith and crushing it. Why? When you marginalize faith in America, when you remove the pillar of God-given rights then what’s left is the French Revolution. What’s left is a government that gives you rights. What’s left are no unalienable rights. What’s left is a government that will tell you who you are, what you’ll do and when you’ll do it. What’s left in France became the the guillotine.”
Santorum admitted that the U.S. was “a long way from that,” but if Obama had his way then “we are headed down that road,” citing the Obama administration’s decision to require nearly all private health insurance policies to cover family planning, including female contraceptives.
“Now is the time for America to rise up and say enough!” the GOP hopeful exclaimed.
So where did Guillotine nonsense, Obamacare, Sharia law and attacks on Christianity come from?

Here. In the larger context of news coverage about a shortage of lethal injection drugs for the death penalty, we saw a rise in mentions of reverting to the Guillotine, in conjunction with discussions of other means of execution, like hanging or firing squad. We know that Conservatives HATE any impediment to their rights or abilities to kill other people they don't like, ranging from stopping them from lynching people, to interference with executions of innocent people, to stand your ground laws. It is part of a well-identified pattern that Conservatives also like to project their own worst behaviors as well as fears onto other people they oppose. The ability and the authority to kill people makes Conservatives feel strong and powerful, so much so, that fairness, rule of law or innocence don't matter. Any facts that get in the way of that desire for power are just ignored or steamrolled over.

Mixing up references to means of execution, and Obamacare, and attacks on Christianity are all part of the same pattern of paranoia and delusional thinking that is fundamental to the cray-cray 21st century Conservatism.

Let me just interject here, so far as I am aware, no one still uses the guillotine for beheadings; France has not done so since 1977 and it was outlawed in 1981.  (Some idiot in the U.S. state of Georgia tried in the mid-1990s to replace the electric chair with the guillotine, unsuccessfully.  It is worth noting that both means of execution have serious problems with effectiveness.)

Here is one of the earliest identifications of the claims about Obamacare and the Guillotine via WN.com and the Examiner:



Relax. Obamacare won't bring beheadings to U.S.


A new rumor about Obamacare, formally known as the Affordable Care Act, making its rounds on the internet is that the law will make beheading an official method of execution in the United States. The rumor, apparently has its origin in an article by Lorri Anderson on the Freedom Outpost on Nov. 18, 2013, about international medical codes. Conspiracy sites claim that a medical code for “legal execution” reveals that beheading and decapitation are coming to the United States. The Freedom Outpost is a conservative pseudo-news site that has articles on birtherism, nullification and other conspiracy theories.
Anderson's article refers to a medical code, “ICD 9 E 978,” that conspiracy theorists believe purports to list the legal methods of execution in the United States. The definition of the coding is found on CentralX.com under “International Classification of Diseases” and is as follows:
E978 Legal execution
All executions performed at the behest of the judiciary or ruling authority
[whether permanent or temporary] as:
asphyxiation by gas
beheading, decapitation (by guillotine)
capital punishment
electrocution
hanging
poisoning
shooting
other specified means
INJURY UNDETERMINED WHETHER ACCIDENTALLY OR PURPOSELY
INFLICTED

Anderson notes that the code is part of an international coding system, but doesn’t seem to understand what the codes are for or how they are used. She seems to believe that, because the United States is using the coding system, all parts of the code will apply to patients in the United States and that is is being forced on American doctors by the Department of Homeland Security and UN.
Writing for About.com, Trisha Torrey explains that “ICD” codes are “International Statistical Classifications of Diseases.” The codes are used to categorize every disease, set of symptoms or cause of death that can be attributed to human beings. The coding system was developed by the World Health Organization, the coordinating authority for health in the United Nations. As electronic medical records are implemented, the codes will be used for diagnosis and treatment of health problems.
When someone dies, an ICD code will also be used to record the cause of death. This is where Anderson’s code for “legal execution” comes in. The code will obviously be used when a person has been executed “at the behest of the judiciary or ruling authority [whether permanent or temporary].” Even though “beheading” and “decapitation (by guillotine)” are not legal methods of execution for the federal government or any of the 50 states, beheading is still legal in Saudi Arabia. Additionally, rebels in Syria and the Taliban in Pakistan (possibly a temporary authority in areas that they control) have been known to use beheading, as did Saddam Hussein in pre-war Iraq. Other Islamic terrorists have also been known to behead their captives. In one notable case, Nick Berg, an American business who was Jewish, was kidnapped and beheaded by Iraqi Muslim terrorists in 2004 and the video of the murder was posted online. And no, there is no evidence that Barack Obama is a Muslim.
Santorum is playing on the fears of those who are Islamophobes, those who are birthers, those who believe ridiculous and inaccurate things about the ACA/Obamacare, and especially playing to his particular base among the radical religious right.  The religious right has already been primed for this message by the ridiculous and false Obamacare bullshit.  If this flies successfully with his base you might see Santorum linking it more closely to Obamacare than just contraception, but it is fair to argue that the many instances where lies made about Obamacare have been debunked has made political wannabees like Santorum a little more careful of making demonstrably false claims like those made by Garrow and others.  This is clearly his roundabout way of saying something similar, without getting busted directly.

Tuesday, June 19, 2012

Kicking back for vacations, Presidential style - the Right is Wrong (AGAIN)

Summer time vacations? There is a huge disconnect between what the right says, and the facts. Let's look at factcheck.org's comparison of first years in office vacation time for the most recent four presidents: H.W. Bush -- 40 days;
Bill Clinton -- 21 days;
George W. Bush -- 69 days;
Barak Obama -- 26 days

The right likes to generate fake outrage by mis-informing people about not only the number of days presidents are on vacation, but the costs of those vacations and other trips - the complete lies told by Michele Bachmann about the costs of a presidential trip to India was an example (although not a vacation, every trip seems to be treated similiarly).  And it works - ignorant people get worked up, as we see below.

It is unrealistic to believe that anyone would do a job for four years without taking occasional time off - either playing golf for an afternoon, or taking an occasional few days vacation with their family.  Do most of us have luxury vacations? No.  But these are not conspicuous consumption vacations either; one recent 'vacation' was a brief visit back to the home of the first family in Chicago (although no brush cutting).

If you can't believe the right on this stuff.......why would you believe them on anything else?  They are just not good at getting facts right, on the right.  Sarah Palin campaigned for a good part of the time she was in office, and then quit part way through; who is she to criticize anyone else for how they spend their time in office?  And Donald Trump? WHY would anyone, anywhere, ever at any time listen to birther / media whore Donald Trump who will do anything and say anything to get some attention?  But the right does.

Here are a few of the more outrageous rumors about Obama, vacations, and other travel corrected by factcheck.org:

Did President Obama have his dog, Bo, flown to Maine in his own private jet for the family vacation?


No. The family and staff took two small jets because the airport couldn’t accommodate the usual presidential plane. Bo flew with several staffers.

Sept. 16, 2010
 
Is President Obama flying on Air Force One more than other presidents did? Is he being accompanied by more people on international trips?


Two chain e-mails suggesting that the president’s travel habits are more excessive than his predecessors are off base.

July 8, 2011
 
This one comes up a lot while the President is traveling:
Did President Obama secretly sign a law that makes it a crime to protest against him or ask him a question he doesn’t like?


No. He openly announced the signing of a bill overwhelmingly passed by Congress that slightly revises a 1971 law against trespassing into areas under Secret Service protection.

May 7, 2012
 
and from this factcheck.org article on Obama:
 
It’s worth mentioning that President Obama has also made 11 trips — all or part of 27 days — to Camp David, the presidential retreat in Frederick County, Md. Knoller, however, says he doesn’t count trips to Camp David as part of any presidents’ "vacation" time. But for the sake of comparison, President George W. Bush, made more trips to that country residence than Obama. According to Knoller, Bush made 25 trips — a total of 78 days — to Camp David in 2001.

But no matter how much time a president actually spends away from the official residence at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave., Knoller says that the commander in chief is never really off the clock. "I have long held the view that a US president is never really on vacation," Knoller told FactCheck.org in an e-mail. "The job – and its awesome powers and responsibilities – is his wherever he is and whatever he’s doing."


and then there is this one from 2009:
Q: Did Michelle Obama and her daughters use taxpayer money to take a European vacation?
A: The first lady, her mother and her children did stay in Europe for a private vacation after the president completed an overseas trip on official business. However, no taxpayer money was used for the first family’s personal expenses.

Right wing perceptions just don't match up well with objective reality -- they COULD, but the right just doesn't like objective, fact-driven reality; it differs from what they choose to believe.







The rabid right wingers would do well to foam at the mouth less, and fact check a whole lot more.

But they won't.  If they did, they would never nominate Mitt Romney.