No, wrong, bad, sloppy and factually incorrect; also meaningless and moot.
That is incorrect on party affiliation first and foremost. But it is the reason the poster is addressed to conservatives, not parties. Jefferson Davis was a conservative Racist, who tried during his lifetime to encourage belligerence towards the government, after being convicted of treason - as violent insurrectionists and secessionists properly were.
Lincoln was an early Republican and a liberal; back when the Republican party started, it was largely liberal. The party of Lincoln bears no resemblance to the modern party of extreme conservatives, other than having the same name.
In the mid-20th century, there were conservative Republicans, like Wm. F. Buckley, and far fringe extremists like the John Birch Society; and there were moderate to liberal Republicans, including party leaders like the great Senator Edward Dirksen. Back in the day, the right had a relatively prominent place for the well-educated intellectuals like Buckley, but not for the fringe. Buckley stayed; the extremist John Birchers, founded by te father of the current Koch Brothers, were the ones purged.
There were also liberal Democrats like Hubert Humphrey and LBJ, and conservative Dixie-crats, southern Democrats like the ones in the photo. Post LBJ, the southern conservatives, the racist ones, largely joined the conservatives in the GOP - the racist ones.
Leadership like Dirksen partnered up with Liberals like LBJ and HHH to champion the civil rights movement.
That was when the big switch took place, with the conservatives all jumping ship to the side of the GOP/right, including all the southern AND northern Racists. They became the party of Goldwater, but even he was moderate by the standards of the current GOP and Tea Party. Those who are not extreme, and especially those who are not racist, have largely changed parties to the Democrats, or consider themselves Independent.
The conservatives from the GOP didn't like the civil rights legislation, and in the so-called 'Southern Strategy' developed by White Supremacist Pat Buchanan in the Nixon administration, caused all those formerly anti-Lincoln southern Democrats to join the Republican conservatives.
You are incorrect about Robert E. Lee being a life-long Democrat. He was an anti-slavery liberal, emancipating the slaves on the estate his wife inherited. The assertion he was a life-long Dem rests on his siding with REPUBLICAN president Andrew Jackson against extremist / radical Republicans over certain punitive aspects of Reconstruction. They had them back then, too, radical Republicans; they just didn't put their crazies in charge of the asylum back in those days. Davis was a Democrat, but not so far as I am aware a radical conservative, nor post Civil War did he have any active political participation and he could not vote in elections, so his party affiliation was moot. The Confederacy, btw, did not have political parties, so for a number of years, Lee had no apparent political adherence, and in fact appears to have none throughout most of his life.
Jefferson Davis was a Democrat before there were Republicans, making your distinction misleading; the opposition to the Democrats at the time were the Whigs (to which Abraham Lincoln belonged before becoming a Republican). Davis was an avowed racist, and relatively conservative, while abolitionists were considered liberals.
Can you even identify all the men on the right by name, much less political party? I see a few who were definitely, NOT Republicans, and some who had no apparent political affiliations in their lives - the man on the far right appears for example, to be George Armstrong Custer, who had open antagonism for a number of Republicans, notably President Grant, who's brother he testified against over a scandal from the Lincoln administration, and he was known for conflicts with President Andrew Johnson as well. So while Custer had some clearly anti-Republican episodes in his lifetime, I am unaware that he ever declared or affiliated or advocated in any way for the Republican party - as an example. The only politics Custer played were personal ones, mostly within the military establishment.
You would be incorrect to assume that anyone on the right of this picture was a Republican, and you are clearly wrong about Lee on the left. Party affiliation is meaningless in the context of this photo; conservative vs liberal IS pertinent.
Simpletons and extremists do tend to have trouble with anything that doesn't fit easily into clear categories, or for that matter anything having to do with facts.
The two men on the left were life-long Democrats.
ReplyDeleteThe men on the right were all Republicans.
No, wrong, bad, sloppy and factually incorrect; also meaningless and moot.
DeleteThat is incorrect on party affiliation first and foremost. But it is the reason the poster is addressed to conservatives, not parties. Jefferson Davis was a conservative Racist, who tried during his lifetime to encourage belligerence towards the government, after being convicted of treason - as violent insurrectionists and secessionists properly were.
Lincoln was an early Republican and a liberal; back when the Republican party started, it was largely liberal. The party of Lincoln bears no resemblance to the modern party of extreme conservatives, other than having the same name.
In the mid-20th century, there were conservative Republicans, like Wm. F. Buckley, and far fringe extremists like the John Birch Society; and there were moderate to liberal Republicans, including party leaders like the great Senator Edward Dirksen. Back in the day, the right had a relatively prominent place for the well-educated intellectuals like Buckley, but not for the fringe. Buckley stayed; the extremist John Birchers, founded by te father of the current Koch Brothers, were the ones purged.
There were also liberal Democrats like Hubert Humphrey and LBJ, and conservative Dixie-crats, southern Democrats like the ones in the photo. Post LBJ, the southern conservatives, the racist ones, largely joined the conservatives in the GOP - the racist ones.
Leadership like Dirksen partnered up with Liberals like LBJ and HHH to champion the civil rights movement.
That was when the big switch took place, with the conservatives all jumping ship to the side of the GOP/right, including all the southern AND northern Racists. They became the party of Goldwater, but even he was moderate by the standards of the current GOP and Tea Party. Those who are not extreme, and especially those who are not racist, have largely changed parties to the Democrats, or consider themselves Independent.
The conservatives from the GOP didn't like the civil rights legislation, and in the so-called 'Southern Strategy' developed by White Supremacist Pat Buchanan in the Nixon administration, caused all those formerly anti-Lincoln southern Democrats to join the Republican conservatives.
You are incorrect about Robert E. Lee being a life-long Democrat. He was an anti-slavery liberal, emancipating the slaves on the estate his wife inherited. The assertion he was a life-long Dem rests on his siding with REPUBLICAN president Andrew Jackson against extremist / radical Republicans over certain punitive aspects of Reconstruction. They had them back then, too, radical Republicans; they just didn't put their crazies in charge of the asylum back in those days. Davis was a Democrat, but not so far as I am aware a radical conservative, nor post Civil War did he have any active political participation and he could not vote in elections, so his party affiliation was moot. The Confederacy, btw, did not have political parties, so for a number of years, Lee had no apparent political adherence, and in fact appears to have none throughout most of his life.
DeleteJefferson Davis was a Democrat before there were Republicans, making your distinction misleading; the opposition to the Democrats at the time were the Whigs (to which Abraham Lincoln belonged before becoming a Republican). Davis was an avowed racist, and relatively conservative, while abolitionists were considered liberals.
Can you even identify all the men on the right by name, much less political party? I see a few who were definitely, NOT Republicans, and some who had no apparent political affiliations in their lives - the man on the far right appears for example, to be George Armstrong Custer, who had open antagonism for a number of Republicans, notably President Grant, who's brother he testified against over a scandal from the Lincoln administration, and he was known for conflicts with President Andrew Johnson as well. So while Custer had some clearly anti-Republican episodes in his lifetime, I am unaware that he ever declared or affiliated or advocated in any way for the Republican party - as an example. The only politics Custer played were personal ones, mostly within the military establishment.
You would be incorrect to assume that anyone on the right of this picture was a Republican, and you are clearly wrong about Lee on the left. Party affiliation is meaningless in the context of this photo; conservative vs liberal IS pertinent.
Simpletons and extremists do tend to have trouble with anything that doesn't fit easily into clear categories, or for that matter anything having to do with facts.
Epic fail, again, wierdy beardy.